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[possible GZ spoilers] Chico = Quiet Theory
Topic Started: Mar 30 2014, 01:27:55 AM (6,932 Views)
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It started out as a joke theory, just like other theories like the "Kaz is the glasses" theory.
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BatouYukinawa
May 1 2014, 02:20:21 AM
Why do some think Chico is Quiet? As far as theories, this one just seems out of left field. There's no correlation between the two whatsoever that I can see.
Did you read anything prior to you just posting that? it's clearly stated many many times why people think Chico is Quiet in TPP.

- He was forced to rape Paz (reason for cutting off his own penis)
- He betrayed MSF (reason for cutting out his tongue)
- His Peacewalker profile says 'He wants to be a hunter'
- When Skullface is torturing Paz, he tells Chico numerous times to 'Be a man' while Paz is telling him to 'Be Quiet'
- Chico and Quiet apparently look like each other :mellow:
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BatouYukinawa
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- He was forced to rape Paz OK, I don't think people are reading this scene correctly. This
scene is about Chico's innocence as a child being stripped away by Skull Face. Once he "tastes" Paz he is forced
to become a "Man" against his will. Chico as a character has now evolved from innocence to corruption.

-He betrayed MSF Again, betrayal is losing his innocence. He also did this before in PW

-Peace Walker profile says "he wants to be a hunter": Yeah, a hunter, as in "Monster Hunter" like the game KP
was cross promoting with. He was also obsessed with UMA's, and talked to BB at great length about Sasquatch lol

-"Be a man" Yeah, exactly. Chico is scared through this hasty transition. Skull Face isn't telling him to be true to his gender role. He's telling him to grow up, and become a real soldier.

-Chico and Quiet look like each other: OK so you are going to tell me that when they rendered the image of Chico in PW, they some how knew about Quiet? You can tell from Shinkawa's art Quiet was going to look like Paz.
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plz explain to me wtf "being true to gender role" has to do with being a soldier. Especially since Chico is male.
Edited by See Greene, May 1 2014, 04:11:08 AM.
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BatouYukinawa
May 1 2014, 04:05:54 AM
- He was forced to rape Paz OK, I don't think people are reading this scene correctly. This
scene is about Chico's innocence as a child being stripped away by Skull Face. Once he "tastes" Paz he is forced
to become a "Man" against his will. Chico as a character has now evolved from innocence to corruption.

-He betrayed MSF Again, betrayal is losing his innocence. He also did this before in PW

-Peace Walker profile says "he wants to be a hunter": Yeah, a hunter, as in "Monster Hunter" like the game KP
was cross promoting with. He was also obsessed with UMA's, and talked to BB at great length about Sasquatch lol

-"Be a man" Yeah, exactly. Chico is scared through this hasty transition. Skull Face isn't telling him to be true to his gender role. He's telling him to grow up, and become a real soldier.

-Chico and Quiet look like each other: OK so you are going to tell me that when they rendered the image of Chico in PW, they some how knew about Quiet? You can tell from Shinkawa's art Quiet was going to look like Paz.
Actually I'm almost sure Skull Face was referring to knowing about sex and women when he was saying for Chico to be a man.

Also, it's not that hard to believe that they invented Quiet after already having a face model for Chico, and based her face on him. They then only had to find an actress that looked like a female vers. of Chico-Stephanie Joosten
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You guys are going too overboard haha look let people live their own lives who cares what we do its not your life so you dont have the right to judge the actions of another person because all of us have done some shady business one way or another what people dont get in this world is that no matter what we think about in this world you can never change that because there is always gonna be people that'll do the opposite... dont like transgenders? Get over it because people are gonna do it.... some people are either born or altered with messed up minds its not "oh I was born to be gay" no its either something in your brain was altered to make you think that (mutation, yes it happens) or a VERY traumatic experience has happened to them such as a woman being severely raped and never being able to trust men again thus she becomes a lesbian look shit happens people need to accept that once we do the world will have a brighter outlool but again people will think the opposite so therefore the world is always gonna be in a constant battle over who is right on what
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BatouYukinawa
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Sorry if I wasn't explaining things clearly. So when Skull Face says "be a man". He's not talking about Chico in terms of his sexuality exclusively. When one says "man up" or "be a man" they are usually referring to that persons' inability to act accordingly to their gender role. These of course are generalized statements, and appeal to the notion that the "male" gender has a black and white definition.

Skull Face however is not referring to this at all. He's not a male chauvinist. He's a sadist. When he says "be a man" to Chico, he's talking about losing his innocence. He wants Chico to become corrupted.
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May 1 2014, 04:28:10 AM
BatouYukinawa
May 1 2014, 04:05:54 AM
- He was forced to rape Paz OK, I don't think people are reading this scene correctly. This
scene is about Chico's innocence as a child being stripped away by Skull Face. Once he "tastes" Paz he is forced
to become a "Man" against his will. Chico as a character has now evolved from innocence to corruption.

-He betrayed MSF Again, betrayal is losing his innocence. He also did this before in PW

-Peace Walker profile says "he wants to be a hunter": Yeah, a hunter, as in "Monster Hunter" like the game KP
was cross promoting with. He was also obsessed with UMA's, and talked to BB at great length about Sasquatch lol

-"Be a man" Yeah, exactly. Chico is scared through this hasty transition. Skull Face isn't telling him to be true to his gender role. He's telling him to grow up, and become a real soldier.

-Chico and Quiet look like each other: OK so you are going to tell me that when they rendered the image of Chico in PW, they some how knew about Quiet? You can tell from Shinkawa's art Quiet was going to look like Paz.
Actually I'm almost sure Skull Face was referring to knowing about sex and women when he was saying for Chico to be a man.

Also, it's not that hard to believe that they invented Quiet after already having a face model for Chico, and based her face on him. They then only had to find an actress that looked like a female vers. of Chico-Stephanie Joosten
Honestly I'd like to see Chico become Quiet, but I just don't see the evidence. I see people jumping to conclusions without any REAL evidence to support their claims. But hell, it's all in good fun right?
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BatouYukinawa
May 1 2014, 04:52:40 AM
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May 1 2014, 04:28:10 AM
BatouYukinawa
May 1 2014, 04:05:54 AM
- He was forced to rape Paz OK, I don't think people are reading this scene correctly. This
scene is about Chico's innocence as a child being stripped away by Skull Face. Once he "tastes" Paz he is forced
to become a "Man" against his will. Chico as a character has now evolved from innocence to corruption.

-He betrayed MSF Again, betrayal is losing his innocence. He also did this before in PW

-Peace Walker profile says "he wants to be a hunter": Yeah, a hunter, as in "Monster Hunter" like the game KP
was cross promoting with. He was also obsessed with UMA's, and talked to BB at great length about Sasquatch lol

-"Be a man" Yeah, exactly. Chico is scared through this hasty transition. Skull Face isn't telling him to be true to his gender role. He's telling him to grow up, and become a real soldier.

-Chico and Quiet look like each other: OK so you are going to tell me that when they rendered the image of Chico in PW, they some how knew about Quiet? You can tell from Shinkawa's art Quiet was going to look like Paz.
Actually I'm almost sure Skull Face was referring to knowing about sex and women when he was saying for Chico to be a man.

Also, it's not that hard to believe that they invented Quiet after already having a face model for Chico, and based her face on him. They then only had to find an actress that looked like a female vers. of Chico-Stephanie Joosten
Honestly I'd like to see Chico become Quiet, but I just don't see the evidence. I see people jumping to conclusions without any REAL evidence to support their claims. But hell, it's all in good fun right?
That's exactly why it's so fun. Despite the fact that it probably won't happen, it would make a lot of sense if it did.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Isnt Quiet a white woman, and chico a Latin american kid?
Then again, PW potrayal of Latin people was so bad and whitewashed that i wouldnt be suprised if Chica change genders and ethnic group.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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TheDankSnake
May 1 2014, 04:32:06 AM
You guys are going too overboard haha look let people live their own lives who cares what we do its not your life so you dont have the right to judge the actions of another person because all of us have done some shady business one way or another what people dont get in this world is that no matter what we think about in this world you can never change that because there is always gonna be people that'll do the opposite... dont like transgenders? Get over it because people are gonna do it.... some people are either born or altered with messed up minds its not "oh I was born to be gay" no its either something in your brain was altered to make you think that (mutation, yes it happens) or a VERY traumatic experience has happened to them such as a woman being severely raped and never being able to trust men again thus she becomes a lesbian look shit happens people need to accept that once we do the world will have a brighter outlool but again people will think the opposite so therefore the world is always gonna be in a constant battle over who is right on what
Dude. Ever heard of punctuation marks or paragraphs? :huh:
Edited by Letho, May 1 2014, 08:19:17 AM.
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May 1 2014, 08:18:48 AM
Dude. Ever heard of punctuation marks or paragraphs? :huh:
Nope I'm not righting an essay for english so I dont give a fuck like I said dont tell me how to live my life I dont tell you how to live yours so butt outta mine
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TheDankSnake
May 1 2014, 08:40:21 AM
JackDaRipper
May 1 2014, 08:18:48 AM
Dude. Ever heard of punctuation marks or paragraphs? :huh:
Nope I'm not righting an essay for english so I dont give a fuck like I said dont tell me how to live my life I dont tell you how to live yours so butt outta mine
I was not insulting you. Or mocking you. But without punctuation marks and proper paragraphs, your posts are barely comprehensible.

There is simply no reason not to use them.
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JackDaRipper
May 1 2014, 08:44:02 AM
I was not insulting you. Or mocking you. But without punctuation marks and proper paragraphs, your posts are barely comprehensible.
You can't honestly say you weren't mocking or insulting when you make a sarcastic "ever heard of grammar" response, unless you are one of those people who just have no tact whatsoever. In which case its still mocking or insulting, just unintentionally. O.o

@Skin tone. Its possible for skin tone to change with hormones actually, though I don't think its all that common. Honestly though, Quiet being able to create black rorschach marks on her face at will, why wouldn't she be able to change her skin tone a bit. Kinda funny though, if the reason for nakedness is for solar power or whatever (cause it makes so much sense!!) then she should be really tanned instead of super pale.

@DankSnake, a lot of people won't bother to read walls of text on the internet so continue posting how you wish of course, just bear in mind many might not bother to read through them unless there are paragraphs and the like. :)
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Tbh the first time that I saw Quiet I said

"A latina!"
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May 1 2014, 01:56:04 PM
unless you are one of those people who just have no tact whatsoever.
Yep. I'm one of those :X:
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although I really hope the theory isn't true, I can see Kojima actually making Quiet Chico just for the lolz.

Anyway can we all agree that Chico will be called Chicago from now on?
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May 1 2014, 01:56:04 PM
@DankSnake, a lot of people won't bother to read walls of text on the internet so continue posting how you wish of course, just bear in mind many might not bother to read through them unless there are paragraphs and the like. :)
Yeah I realize that but tbh it doesnt matter to me but I'll add some punctuation n shit for the sake of you guys hahaha
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Idk, that ability she has seems more super natural to me. Chico never had anything super natural to him
that I recall. Honestly think about it for sec. Forget this could (albeit very small chance) Chico. What's the
draw for this character then? Part of what I loved about MGS' characters, was that they slowly progressed.
You learned more about the villains as the overall story continued forward. So if by some miraculous chance
she is indeed Chico; I ask where's the mystery, or intrigue about this character going to come from?
Edited by BatouYukinawa, May 1 2014, 06:14:47 PM.
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There is no mystery, that's the thing, it's a total twist in favor of a mystery. Sure, his characters are polluted with mystery, but I hardly think it would be so surprising as to change that a bit for one of his new characters he introduces to find out there was a twist as to who you thought they were..

I still don't buy Chico is Quiet thing, don't care to, but I'm just reverbing how it 'COULD' become a reality, and how it wouldn't detriment the story in any way.
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