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[possible GZ spoilers] Chico = Quiet Theory
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Or another likely scenario is Chico could be a male counterpart or parallel to Quiet...
This. While Quiet is the main heroine of TPP, Chico could be the main hero.
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May 6 2014, 02:05:26 PM
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Or another likely scenario is Chico could be a male counterpart or parallel to Quiet...
This, now, I can agree with. Her concept art looks like Paz anyway, so its entirely possible for Chico and Quiet to be close (literally or otherwise). I will NOT accept Chico getting over Paz. Ever! Not getting over her makes his character all that more tragic and his eventual death in this game all that more melancholic.
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May 6 2014, 05:19:04 PM
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Or another likely scenario is Chico could be a male counterpart or parallel to Quiet...
This, now, I can agree with. Her concept art looks like Paz anyway, so its entirely possible for Chico and Quiet to be close (literally or otherwise).
I will NOT accept Chico getting over Paz. Ever! Not getting over her makes his character all that more tragic and his eventual death in this game all that more melancholic. Who says they have to be lovers? Chico could just have befriend her because he sees something of Paz in her or some dumb shit Kojima can write up. I agree, I doubt he'll be trying to get into anyone else's panties after his swiftly ended relationship with Paz.
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May 6 2014, 09:22:43 PM
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Or another likely scenario is Chico could be a male counterpart or parallel to Quiet...
This, now, I can agree with. Her concept art looks like Paz anyway, so its entirely possible for Chico and Quiet to be close (literally or otherwise).
I will NOT accept Chico getting over Paz. Ever! Not getting over her makes his character all that more tragic and his eventual death in this game all that more melancholic.
Who says they have to be lovers? Chico could just have befriend her because he sees something of Paz in her or some dumb shit Kojima can write up. I agree, I doubt he'll be trying to get into anyone else's panties after his swiftly ended relationship with Paz. Oh...Okay then.
Yeah, actually this was a headcanon of mine that because of some sort of resemblance to Paz, Chico would be close to Quiet, like a brother-sister type of thing.
By the way, how funny would it be if now that Chico doesn't want to have anything to do with any woman, he becomes a chick magnet? I'd find that hilariously ironic.
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May 6 2014, 10:58:29 PM
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I have a hard time believing that Chico becomes so tall (as Ballisticola stated) and gains strange facial abilities and dresses in such a fashion after he witnessed the humiliation of Paz.
Yeah. And after clearly being marketed as a hot female protagonist with barely any clothes on Kojima goes and says: "Btw, dudes, the hot girl you've been fantasizing about is actually A DUDE, and I made him wear revealing clothes to fuck with your minds!"Sorry but not gonna happen. oh hey kojima says that you are going to understand why quiet dresses that way and when you do you will feel really bad. SO! This can mean many things
Chico is Quiet for one The whole shebang of the theory and being thrown out into the ocean like paz, chico see that he will become like paz. He goes out first as some kid rescued by pirates, fishermen, whatever it is like paz did the first time being rescued by belizian fishermen. Then he being taken by said group is basically traficked and sold to pedophiles. as he maybe escapes the clutches of his rapee or even just stays around with, he has to develop new ways to please his master or his sex customers after he escaped, seeing that sex is his way to money. In this he massages his tits, drinks milk, hormones, chops his dick, doing whatever while in his off time he is the savior of some traficked people. (The main heroine of the story) He has acquired assasination from MSF and at the same time uses that to his advantage while gathering money... He dresses skimpy to attract customers and "sells himself" but in the end kills the dude and steals his crap after he finishes. (because it is a tactical maneuver) Kinda like what Eva did to snake to get the philosophers legacy.
So in this way, kojima can say, oh you will be ashamed because one, She is a He who was desprate for money that he needed to sell himself.
OR! you can just leave chico out of this one and still apply the seducing assassin theory with Quiet. It would be pretty bad to ridicule a hero prostitute's clothing.
Also kojima did say it was a mistake to tweet about it and reveal the character in the first place since people blew up about it when the story is actually sad.
I like the chico quiet theory. It's fun
Here is some supporting evidence http://thoughtburp.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/all-quiet-on-the-quiet-front-an-mgs-5-update/
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I have a hard time believing that Chico becomes so tall (as Ballisticola stated) and gains strange facial abilities and dresses in such a fashion after he witnessed the humiliation of Paz.
Yeah. And after clearly being marketed as a hot female protagonist with barely any clothes on Kojima goes and says: "Btw, dudes, the hot girl you've been fantasizing about is actually A DUDE, and I made him wear revealing clothes to fuck with your minds!"Sorry but not gonna happen.
oh hey kojima says that you are going to understand why quiet dresses that way and when you do you will feel really bad. SO! This can mean many things Chico is Quiet for one The whole shebang of the theory and being thrown out into the ocean like paz, chico see that he will become like paz. He goes out first as some kid rescued by pirates, fishermen, whatever it is like paz did the first time being rescued by belizian fishermen. Then he being taken by said group is basically traficked and sold to pedophiles. as he maybe escapes the clutches of his rapee or even just stays around with, he has to develop new ways to please his master or his sex customers after he escaped, seeing that sex is his way to money. In this he massages his tits, drinks milk, hormones, chops his dick, doing whatever while in his off time he is the savior of some traficked people. (The main heroine of the story) He has acquired assasination from MSF and at the same time uses that to his advantage while gathering money... He dresses skimpy to attract customers and "sells himself" but in the end kills the dude and steals his crap after he finishes. (because it is a tactical maneuver) Kinda like what Eva did to snake to get the philosophers legacy. So in this way, kojima can say, oh you will be ashamed because one, She is a He who was desprate for money that he needed to sell himself. OR! you can just leave chico out of this one and still apply the seducing assassin theory with Quiet. It would be pretty bad to ridicule a hero prostitute's clothing. Also kojima did say it was a mistake to tweet about it and reveal the character in the first place since people blew up about it when the story is actually sad. I like the chico quiet theory. It's fun Here is some supporting evidence http://thoughtburp.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/all-quiet-on-the-quiet-front-an-mgs-5-update/ One has to wonder just how TRAGIC Quiet's story will have to be far all these people to be ashamed of their words and deeds and actually cut Kojima some slack.
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I'm sure the reasoning will be ok. Nothing as insane as Kojima's promises but it'll be something.
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story. Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her.
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May 7 2014, 03:10:14 AM
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her. You act like they were soulmates. Yeah Chico had feelings for her, but keep in mind he was 13 at this time while Paz is in her early/mid 20's. I know people have crushes and such at that age and, assuming Chico is living during TPP, I'd expect him to be traumatized I don't see those feelings for Paz being there forever. The feelings of hate against Skull Face however I find far more plausible.
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her.
You act like they were soulmates. Yeah Chico had feelings for her, but keep in mind he was 13 at this time while Paz is in her early/mid 20's. I know people have crushes and such at that age and, assuming Chico is living during TPP, I'd expect him to be traumatized I don't see those feelings for Paz being there forever. The feelings of hate against Skull Face however I find far more plausible. Actually I think her death is going to amplify his feelings for her if anything. Now he us going to think about how great things "would have been" further fueling his hate and want for revenge on Skullface.
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her.
You act like they were soulmates. Yeah Chico had feelings for her, but keep in mind he was 13 at this time while Paz is in her early/mid 20's. I know people have crushes and such at that age and, assuming Chico is living during TPP, I'd expect him to be traumatized I don't see those feelings for Paz being there forever. The feelings of hate against Skull Face however I find far more plausible. Well, I have to admit they are my OTP and the only pairing I've ever cared about in Metal Gear, so I am obviously biased. This is just my opinion, you don't have to agree with me.
Feel free to disagree, but honestly, after everything that happened, I honestly don't think Chico's feelings for Paz were a mere crush and I don't think he'll ever get over her.
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her.
You act like they were soulmates. Yeah Chico had feelings for her, but keep in mind he was 13 at this time while Paz is in her early/mid 20's. I know people have crushes and such at that age and, assuming Chico is living during TPP, I'd expect him to be traumatized I don't see those feelings for Paz being there forever. The feelings of hate against Skull Face however I find far more plausible.
Actually I think her death is going to amplify his feelings for her if anything. Now he us going to think about how great things "would have been" further fueling his hate and want for revenge on Skullface. This.
If anything, Paz's death and sacrifice will make Chico put her on a pedestal and have hero-worship for her. I'm pretty sure there will come a moment when someone will try to badmouth Paz, only for Chico to beat the shit out of them for even daring to speak her name.
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her.
You act like they were soulmates. Yeah Chico had feelings for her, but keep in mind he was 13 at this time while Paz is in her early/mid 20's. I know people have crushes and such at that age and, assuming Chico is living during TPP, I'd expect him to be traumatized I don't see those feelings for Paz being there forever. The feelings of hate against Skull Face however I find far more plausible.
Actually I think her death is going to amplify his feelings for her if anything. Now he us going to think about how great things "would have been" further fueling his hate and want for revenge on Skullface.
This. If anything, Paz's death and sacrifice will make Chico put her on a pedestal and have hero-worship for her. I'm pretty sure there will come a moment when someone will try to badmouth Paz, only for Chico to beat the shit out of them for even daring to speak her name. Somehow this makes me think Chico and Kaz are NOT going to get along in The Phantom Pain.
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still think Chico is Quiet...
anyone else still think so?
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her.
You act like they were soulmates. Yeah Chico had feelings for her, but keep in mind he was 13 at this time while Paz is in her early/mid 20's. I know people have crushes and such at that age and, assuming Chico is living during TPP, I'd expect him to be traumatized I don't see those feelings for Paz being there forever. The feelings of hate against Skull Face however I find far more plausible.
Actually I think her death is going to amplify his feelings for her if anything. Now he us going to think about how great things "would have been" further fueling his hate and want for revenge on Skullface. Yep not to mention she was his first and died before they ever got to do much of anything.
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Quiet looking like Paz in concept art could turn into something like Chico becomes obsessed with her, in the very negative and unhealthy way. So given his tramatic experiences being the only things he remembers of Paz he inflicts that same abuse on Quiet like how those who were abused sometimes in turn become the abusers. That would be a truly tragic spin on his story.
Please Kojima...don't do this. My heart couldn't handle it. Besides, Chico still has that final message of Paz. He needs to honor her.
You act like they were soulmates. Yeah Chico had feelings for her, but keep in mind he was 13 at this time while Paz is in her early/mid 20's. I know people have crushes and such at that age and, assuming Chico is living during TPP, I'd expect him to be traumatized I don't see those feelings for Paz being there forever. The feelings of hate against Skull Face however I find far more plausible.
Actually I think her death is going to amplify his feelings for her if anything. Now he us going to think about how great things "would have been" further fueling his hate and want for revenge on Skullface.
This. If anything, Paz's death and sacrifice will make Chico put her on a pedestal and have hero-worship for her. I'm pretty sure there will come a moment when someone will try to badmouth Paz, only for Chico to beat the shit out of them for even daring to speak her name.
Somehow this makes me think Chico and Kaz are NOT going to get along in The Phantom Pain. If Chico is Quiet, it would explain why he is being tortured.
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still think Chico is Quiet...
anyone else still think so?
:B No.
It makes no logical sense. Funny how the MGS games have plots which are complicated to understand, but the fans themselves come up with the dumbest theories. I shit you not, there were people on Youtube that were still convinced that Chico in GZ was actually Solid Snake, until the game was released.
There is no way that Chico can be Quiet. Whoever came up with this, he had a lot of wishful thinking.
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The person who came up with this was having a good laugh mocking the MGS fanbase and then the MGS fanbase legitimately took it seriously. They're essentially mocking themselves with the theory.
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I think with Chico Kojima has two choices. Have him die in Ground Zeroes or keep him alive in TPP, develop his character massively and have him never been seen again in the series (since he doesn't appear in any other titles). I'd be fine with either to be honest. I think him being Quiet would ruin both characters though. I'm guessing Quiet is a sex slave who becomes a warrior and takes revenge on everybody.. Think Kill Bill mixed with I Spit on your grave. That for me would tick every box.
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