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[possible GZ spoilers] Chico = Quiet Theory
Topic Started: Mar 30 2014, 01:27:55 AM (6,939 Views)
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Apr 29 2014, 03:10:03 PM
Its the 80s ffs. mgs doesnt have that kind of technology to have someone change genders PERFECTLY.
While I still agree with the theory being bullshit, there's a lot of stuff in MGS games that shouldn't be there.

Like the whole iDroid thingy in the 70s. Or nanomachines in 2005. Yeah right.
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Apr 29 2014, 03:22:49 PM
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Its the 80s ffs. mgs doesnt have that kind of technology to have someone change genders PERFECTLY.
While I still agree with the theory being bullshit, there's a lot of stuff in MGS games that shouldn't be there.

Like the whole iDroid thingy in the 70s. Or nanomachines in 2005. Yeah right.
Yes but were talking about how mgs advances in technology over the years.
They are very advanced in stuff like mechs and computers.
But reconstruction of bodies was never fully possible until mgs4 were big boss was reconstructed with parts from liquid and solidus which happened in 2015. Everything else has been cybornetic implants or just prostethics.
Mgs has technology that shouldnt exist yes. But from the start they have only been advanced in a specific side of technology, robotics and computers.
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Its the 80s ffs. mgs doesnt have that kind of technology to have someone change genders PERFECTLY.
While I still agree with the theory being bullshit, there's a lot of stuff in MGS games that shouldn't be there.

Like the whole iDroid thingy in the 70s. Or nanomachines in 2005. Yeah right.
Yeah, Science in metal gear is somehow 30 years ahead. Like, Huey's exoskeleton, i've read there's a scientist working in a similar one they're even gonna use ir for world cup or something, and it's still a working model.
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They dont have the technology todo the kind of sex change process one would go through to turn someone like chico into someone like quiet withought having any visible flaws. They are advanced in robotics, computers and not much else
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Apr 29 2014, 03:42:28 PM
They dont have the technology todo the kind of sex change process one would go through to turn someone like chico into someone like quiet withought having any visible flaws. They are advanced in robotics, computers and not much else
As much as this theory makes me headdesk; what technology? Hormones, reassignment surgery and perhaps breast implants? Hardly the cutting edge of medical science.

As to whoever made the comment about spine surgery, uwotmate?
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forget the gender argument, how does chico suddenly become a supernatural being by simply becoming a woman?

lest we forget, chico didn't have any powers besides the power to annoy despite apparently being the same person who plays pit in kid icarus. meanwhile, quiet's face can morph that face thing on her eyes at will. so unless i'm missing something here, what exactly gave chico the ability to do that?
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I know there’s people concerning about “Quiet” but don’t worry. I created her character as an antithesis to the women characters appeared in the past fighting game who are excessively exposed. “Quiet” who doesn’t have a word will be teased in the story as well. But once you recognize the secret reason for her exposure, you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds.

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I feel like this put more weight in the theory or i'm just dumb to see that he's talking about something else though :D
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Apr 29 2014, 02:41:49 PM
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Looks more like an older Paz in this picture.

But it makes no sense why someone with rape guilt would get a sex change. Women can still rape. Plus wearing a bikini and having boobs with their own gravity makes no logical sense either. :hmm:
Maybe Quiet was gonna be Chico's love interest? But now her appearance is changed so it probably got written out, but its true, the resemblance doesn't seem to be a coincidence on Shinkawa's part. (personally, I like the concept art Quiet more :roy: )
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Up until 2010 (mgs2) we saw gene therapy, prosthetic limps and psychic and cybornetic implants. Only until 2015 (mgs4) we saw complete body restructuring.
And you expect chico, after the fall of mother base would be able to not only afford, but find the medical profesionals by himself todo this kind of procedure and add the whole skin camo powers on top of that?
All in the 1980s?
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Apr 29 2014, 04:17:48 PM
forget the gender argument, how does chico suddenly become a supernatural being by simply becoming a woman?

lest we forget, chico didn't have any powers besides the power to annoy despite apparently being the same person who plays pit in kid icarus. meanwhile, quiet's face can morph that face thing on her eyes at will. so unless i'm missing something here, what exactly gave chico the ability to do that?
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Oh wait. It's the 80s..
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Up until 2010 (mgs2) we saw gene therapy, prosthetic limps and psychic and cybornetic implants. Only until 2015 (mgs4) we saw complete body restructuring.
It's 2009 and 2014 ;)

I still find it hard to believe people know for sure Chico raped Paz.
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Apr 29 2014, 03:10:03 PM
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I don't see why so many people think this is a new level of bullshit. I mean, I also thought it was ridiculous at first, but when you think about it, it does make sense psychologically. Chico, who is only 13, was forced onto Paz, the girl he loves, and then sold out his comrades. The destruction of MotherBase, Big Boss' coma, Paz's death, and everything else was probably too much for him to take, and feeling guilty, he cut off his tongue and...you know...so as to never be capable of selling them out again. Plus, he might want to let Paz live on in a part of him, and this is his way of doing so.
It is bullshit. Its the 80s ffs. mgs doesnt have that kind of technology to have someone change genders PERFECTLY. If they could do that in the 80s then youd think they could give big boss's arm back instead of a prosthetic.
Let alone chico must have done this a few years before big boss woke out of his coma so, it makes it even less plausible.
Chico is as close to being quiet as sunny was to being raiden in revengence...
lmfao @ technology to change genders

LMMFAO @ thinking transgendered people havent existed throughout history

the 80s wasnt the stone ages you fucking kids
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Apr 29 2014, 04:17:48 PM
forget the gender argument, how does chico suddenly become a supernatural being by simply becoming a woman?

lest we forget, chico didn't have any powers besides the power to annoy despite apparently being the same person who plays pit in kid icarus. meanwhile, quiet's face can morph that face thing on her eyes at will. so unless i'm missing something here, what exactly gave chico the ability to do that?
for the record, i wouldn't be against the theory if it was done legitimate justice, but again, fucking face morphing eye shadows that look like rorschach tests. \_(:/)_/
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I don't see why so many people think this is a new level of bullshit. I mean, I also thought it was ridiculous at first, but when you think about it, it does make sense psychologically. Chico, who is only 13, was forced onto Paz, the girl he loves, and then sold out his comrades. The destruction of MotherBase, Big Boss' coma, Paz's death, and everything else was probably too much for him to take, and feeling guilty, he cut off his tongue and...you know...so as to never be capable of selling them out again. Plus, he might want to let Paz live on in a part of him, and this is his way of doing so.
It is bullshit. Its the 80s ffs. mgs doesnt have that kind of technology to have someone change genders PERFECTLY. If they could do that in the 80s then youd think they could give big boss's arm back instead of a prosthetic.
Let alone chico must have done this a few years before big boss woke out of his coma so, it makes it even less plausible.
Chico is as close to being quiet as sunny was to being raiden in revengence...
lmfao @ technology to change genders

LMMFAO @ thinking transgendered people havent existed throughout history

the 80s wasnt the stone ages you fucking kids
If chico could change gender in the 80s and have it look that flawless then why cant big boss get a new arm instead of a prosthetic. He is a legend after all im sure they could have pulled in the resources.

What medical profesional would give a sex change operation to a kid but leave a legendary soldier untreated for nine years while hes in a coma.
Seriously you guys think chico has connections with zero or something to get this kind of shit done? Hes a kid.
He might have a reason todo it but it doesnt mean he could do it.
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Theme of “MGSV” is “GENE” ⇒ “MEME” ⇒ “SCENE” ⇒ “PEACE” ⇒ “RACE”. Story touches the misunderstanding, prejudice, hatred, conflict caused by the difference of language, race, custom, culture, and preference. The response of “Quiet” disclosure few days ago incited by the net is exactly what “MGSV” itself is.


I feel like this put more weight in the theory or i'm just dumb to see that he's talking about something else though :D
If Quiet being a transexual is the big secret reason, I won't feel ashamed. In fact I'd feel like it was a cheap stunt to have a female wearing next to nothing for $$$. The fact that Quiet was Chico would just be something to generate attention to the game.


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The Quiet character is already absurd, so theories around her can be only as absurd.
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Apr 29 2014, 06:03:06 PM
If chico could change gender in the 80s and have it look that flawless then why cant big boss get a new arm instead of a prosthetic. He is a legend after all im sure they could have pulled in the resources.

What medical profesional would give a sex change operation to a kid but leave a legendary soldier untreated for nine years while hes in a coma.
Seriously you guys think chico has connections with zero or something to get this kind of shit done? Hes a kid.
He might have a reason todo it but it doesnt mean he could do it.
Because taking pills or injections for hormones and having flesh that you already have rearranged is very different than having a totally new and foreign synthetic/human limb grafted onto your body? They aren't even remotely comparable.
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If chico could change gender in the 80s and have it look that flawless then why cant big boss get a new arm instead of a prosthetic. He is a legend after all im sure they could have pulled in the resources.

What medical profesional would give a sex change operation to a kid but leave a legendary soldier untreated for nine years while hes in a coma.
Seriously you guys think chico has connections with zero or something to get this kind of shit done? Hes a kid.
He might have a reason todo it but it doesnt mean he could do it.
Because taking pills or injections for hormones and having flesh that you already have rearranged is very different than having a totally new and foreign synthetic/human limb grafted onto your body? They aren't even remotely comparable.
i wouldve thought this was so insanely obvious it didnt merit a response
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Yes well this is MGSF. The obvious clearly does need to be stated. >.<
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If chico could change gender in the 80s and have it look that flawless then why cant big boss get a new arm instead of a prosthetic. He is a legend after all im sure they could have pulled in the resources.

What medical profesional would give a sex change operation to a kid but leave a legendary soldier untreated for nine years while hes in a coma.
Seriously you guys think chico has connections with zero or something to get this kind of shit done? Hes a kid.
He might have a reason todo it but it doesnt mean he could do it.
Because taking pills or injections for hormones and having flesh that you already have rearranged is very different than having a totally new and foreign synthetic/human limb grafted onto your body? They aren't even remotely comparable.
Still though. Having kid in higher priority than a legendary soldier like big boss doesnt seem to make sense.
Im pretty sure they wouldve handled big boss before anyone else and seeing that he was in a coma for nine years he must have needed alot of attention.
Who would have permited chico to go through with this kind of thing, he is a kid after all and even if he did it years later. He was technically on his own at that point.
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