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Voice actor for The Boss working on the Phantom Pain
Topic Started: May 12 2014, 07:07:02 PM (3,452 Views)
TheDankSnake
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Actually BB says to eva she was more than a lover and a mother meaning she meant way more than either of those titles to him and him being in love with her doesnt mean he had sex with her you need to look more deeper than what is just plainly said or else youll misconstrue the whole mgs series
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Snake, history will never know what she did. No one will ever learn the truth. Her story, her debriefing... will endure only in your heart. Everything she did, she did for her country. She sacrificed her life and her honor for her native land. She was a real hero. She was a true patriot. - EVA
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The Boss was like his mother. She raised him from the time he was 15, on a battlefield. They developed CQC together. She helped him through many a battle. They weren't simply a mother-son or lover-lover relationship. They were fighting to protect each other in battle. On the Plains of War. They were risking their lives for one another literally. People say they would take a bullet for their loved one, but that's just a figure of speech. The Boss LITERALLY DID JUST THAT FROM HER OWN MENTEE. Just to save her country and HIM. Their relationship goes deeper, far deeper, than any of us could possibly understand as regular civilians and folks. Have you fought along side someone for decades on various battlefields around the world, then been lead to believe they betrayed you and your country for their own "selfish" cause? Then find out that it wasn't selfish at all, she was doing what had to be done in order to protect Snake? Even if it meant threatening his life and tossing him over a bridge? She had a mission for herself, which she took pride in, and that was to take the fall for everything. Take that in for a second.

Imagine that happening to you as a person. Just as a normal person. Now imagine trying to live life finding that out realizing you are the reason this woman no longer lives.
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Some people bitch and moan about stupid things sometimes. Seeing the boss in the pp will be good, and I'm betting it's in flashbacks.
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Flashbacks and Tapes are guaranteed to me. But if I would take it further, she may appear as a Phantom Illusion like Volgin. I still don't know if the Unicorn horse was Volgin since it was The Boss who was associated with horses, not Volgin. I can somewhat see Big Boss going out of his mind and have one last "Battle" with The Boss and he destroys her therefore relieving some of his PTSD and The Phantom Hallucinations which may become one of his reasons to becoming Big Boss and misinterpreting The Boss's WHEEL forever until "This is good, isn't it?" ;) But that's just one of my crazy ridiculous theories.
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Like his mum? Uh...you do know Snake was "In love" with The Boss right? They were lovers among other
things. If she was like his mum....


Regardless of the relationship, it was an important one and that's the point that I'm making. She was a big part of his life it doesn't matter whether they were lovers, mother and child or something else. She was a big part of his life and that's enough for her to have an affect on him.

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He has a ENTIRE game whining and bitching about The Boss, Kojima should call the prequels series ''The Boss Saga'' at this point, this game is maybe the final big boss game and the boss is going to be the main narrative force AGAIN.


An entire game...? What games have you been playing? Regarding TPP, all we know is that the Boss is (maybe) coming back and you've already decided that she's going to be the main narrative force again? You seriously need to chill out and stop fabricating stuff just so that you can have a rant.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Peace Walker, yeah that game was basically a The Boss crying session and Kojima masturbating about a character dead years ago, its appears that that hack cant write a history without going back to already old closed plot points, makes the Big Boss character even more shallow than already he is.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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May 15 2014, 07:45:19 PM
Peace Walker, yeah that game was basically a The Boss crying session and Kojima masturbating about a character dead years ago, its appears that that hack cant write a history without going back to already old closed plot points, makes the Big Boss character even more shallow than already he is.
Sir, tell us how you really feel! :haha:
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May 15 2014, 07:45:19 PM
Peace Walker, yeah that game was basically a The Boss crying session and Kojima masturbating about a character dead years ago, its appears that that hack cant write a history without going back to already old closed plot points, makes the Big Boss character even more shallow than already he is.
Ha! You clearly hate the central character in the game, the creator of the series and every entry in the series that's focused on Big Boss and yet here you are, with nothing better to do but post on a thread about all of this?? Wow... that much time on something you hate can't be good for you.
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May 15 2014, 07:45:19 PM
Peace Walker, yeah that game was basically a The Boss crying session and Kojima masturbating about a character dead years ago, its appears that that hack cant write a history without going back to already old closed plot points, makes the Big Boss character even more shallow than already he is.
i love how you talk shit about every MGS story and character credibility and yet you have an avatar of Rising.. Great story on that game huh? :D
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Rising story is pure chessy saturday morning cartoon shit also, are you seriously judging someone based on a stupid avatar?

avimran: good for you pal, i wanted MGSV to be the real chapter in the fall of Big Boss, but its appears that Kojima (like the hack he is) cant write a single history without shove his platonic lover into this so im a bit dissapointed. He already retconed a good chunck of The Boss' peronal history in PW, i cant wait for the shit he is gonna pull with this character in MGSV.

_se7en_: dont put false words on me clown, show me where i said that, the only thing i said is Kojipro cant make a game outside of their safe zone -MGS games- and Platinum succeded were Kojipro failed.

Edit: Going to change to a The Boss avatar now, going the ''badass, serious and gritty'' way.
Its done, ready to worship the best character of videogames history, i bow to my queen.

Edited by Bladewolf, May 15 2014, 10:43:41 PM.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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May 15 2014, 09:54:45 PM
Rising story is pure chessy saturday morning cartoon shit also, are you seriously judging someone based on a stupid avatar?
No, i'm basing on every comment you post. You already said that you wish that every Metal gear game would be better off if handed to Platinum Games, so yeah there's that aswell :D

Edit: good for you
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All of you people who are hating on kojima continuing the boss' story need to realize that she IS the reason why the mgs saga exists because without her we would have no big boss no patriots and no ocelot even thus making SS and his brothers non existant so yeah i think she deserves at least one last appearance in a game that shows the dark side of war
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May 15 2014, 10:07:00 PM
All of you people who are hating on kojima continuing the boss' story need to realize that she IS the reason why the mgs saga exists because without her we would have no big boss no patriots and no ocelot even thus making SS and his brothers non existant so yeah i think she deserves at least one last appearance in a game that shows the dark side of war
Thank You, and lets not forget that losing a mother/figure isn't really easy and especially when you've done the deed. In PO, Big Boss gets the hint from gene that The Boss's death was set up by someone in FOX and in Peace Walker, it was all about The Boss being alive and then later she lived through the AI. He never understood her betrayal or the concepts of he understanding of "Loyalty" and then he gives up her Bandana and finally takes the name given to him and then ten days later, Motherbase is destroyed. I mean, these are pretty recent memories Big Boss had, what do you expect? He wakes up nine years to what he left off. He hasn't killed a lot of people and The Boss isn't one of them because of all the S-Ranks he gets ;). Everything Snake is going through right now, is something The Boss already went through... He just hasn't figured it out yet unlike the way The Boss did.
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I really don't care whether or not The Boss shows up as long as it fits the story.
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May 15 2014, 09:54:45 PM
Rising story is pure chessy saturday morning cartoon shit also, are you seriously judging someone based on a stupid avatar?

avimran: good for you pal, i wanted MGSV to be the real chapter in the fall of Big Boss, but its appears that Kojima (like the hack he is) cant write a single history without shove his platonic lover into this so im a bit dissapointed. He already retconed a good chunck of The Boss' peronal history in PW, i cant wait for the shit he is gonna pull with this character in MGSV.

_se7en_: dont put false words on me clown, show me where i said that, the only thing i said is Kojipro cant make a game outside of their safe zone -MGS games- and Platinum succeded were Kojipro failed.

Edit: Going to change to a The Boss avatar now, going the ''badass, serious and gritty'' way.
Its done, ready to worship the best character of videogames history, i bow to my queen.

Seriously, I don't have anything against you but why are you so negative towards something you haven't seen or played? It's like you can't wait to get the pitchfork out at the smallest opportunity. Maybe I'm being stupid but surely you joined this forum because you're fan of the games...
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Agree with above, don't wanna be a dick here, and I know I haven't been here long..but every Bladewolf post I've seen is just angry.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
What? aside of some cuetionable decisions and splinter cell ripped off gameplay, i actually liked the gameplay in GZ, the only thing i dont like is this tryhard mature themes shit that The Hack is hyping up, now he going to bring back a character dead 10 years ago to continue feeding Big Bitch's angst.

Being a fan doesnt mean i gonna like Kojima diarreaing in my face with delicate themes outside of his capacity as writer.
Edited by Bladewolf, May 16 2014, 12:45:17 AM.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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May 16 2014, 12:44:06 AM
What? aside of some cuetionable decisions and splinter cell ripped off gameplay, i actually liked the gameplay in GZ, the only thing i dont like is this tryhard mature themes shit that The Hack is hyping up, now he going to bring back a character dead 10 years ago to continue feeding Big Bitch's angst.

Being a fan doesnt mean i gonna like Kojima diarreaing in my face with delicate themes outside of his capacity as writer.


I think it's the way your posts are littered with pure hate towards everything Big Boss/Kojima - that's what get's frustrating for everyone else. People come here because they like the games and find the characters interesting, not because they despise them. If I had that much hate in me for something I wouldn't be spending my time on a forum positing about it. Life's too short. You can't change what Kojima is doing, these are his games not ours.

Bringing it back to the topic, I think it's nice that she's in TTP, even if it's briefly. She influenced both Zero and BB, and the overall story ended at her grave so at this key stage to be involved in a flashback or something makes sense.
Edited by avimran, May 16 2014, 01:01:46 AM.
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Gaseous-Snake
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Would people really be that opposed to a ten minute full on sex scene between Snake and The Boss's ghost??
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Don't bother trying to convince bladewolf.

The main story is about Big Boss becoming a daemom and doing horrible things for the sole sake of revenge. You don't like the mature shit? Too bad. Crying and whining isn't going to do anything. If you don't like the dark themes and the fact metal gear is moving away from poop and sex jokes,don't play the bloody game.
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