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What if Big Boss & Eva had actually conceived a baby?
Topic Started: May 31 2014, 10:20:14 AM (2,985 Views)
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May 31 2014, 07:20:08 PM
Kinda agree there. But first of all Swag, I think we can clarify that exposure to radiation might not have truly rendered him UNABLE to concieve a child. But rather, caused some atrophy in his gonads, which made his sperm count decrease to the point any chance of him impregnating Eva, were close to 0, just not completely 0%.
That'd be really bad writing to change it now. It'd totally shit on The Boss' speech, not that I'd mind :P
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How could the patriots make him think he is sterile when they werent even close to being created when BB was exposed to radiation from nuclear tests... Unless kojima really retcons the history i dont see this happening at all
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Snake, history will never know what she did. No one will ever learn the truth. Her story, her debriefing... will endure only in your heart. Everything she did, she did for her country. She sacrificed her life and her honor for her native land. She was a real hero. She was a true patriot. - EVA
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May 31 2014, 07:21:25 PM
GohanLSSJ2
May 31 2014, 07:20:08 PM
Kinda agree there. But first of all Swag, I think we can clarify that exposure to radiation might not have truly rendered him UNABLE to concieve a child. But rather, caused some atrophy in his gonads, which made his sperm count decrease to the point any chance of him impregnating Eva, were close to 0, just not completely 0%.
That'd be really bad writing to change it now. It'd totally shit on The Boss' speech, not that I'd mind :P
In the MGS timeline it doesnt say "BB becomes sort of sterile like 98% but he might have a child so keep trying big fella" no it says he is sterile meaning no kids can be conceived from his loins at all

Edit: sorry for the double post
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Snake, history will never know what she did. No one will ever learn the truth. Her story, her debriefing... will endure only in your heart. Everything she did, she did for her country. She sacrificed her life and her honor for her native land. She was a real hero. She was a true patriot. - EVA
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I think we can clarify that exposure to radiation might not have truly rendered him UNABLE to concieve a child.
It's not like they were just guessing he was sterile. I assume they tested him before telling him.
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It'd totally shit on The Boss' speech, not that I'd mind :P
What like when she said she was at the Bay of Pigs...and PW saying she wasn't? :D
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May 31 2014, 08:01:51 PM
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I think we can clarify that exposure to radiation might not have truly rendered him UNABLE to concieve a child.
It's not like they were just guessing he was sterile. I assume they tested him before telling him.
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It'd totally shit on The Boss' speech, not that I'd mind :P
What like when she said she was at the Bay of Pigs...and PW saying she wasn't? :D
PW says she wasn't?
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Yeah i dont recall that being retconned
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Yeah, I second that.
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I love the way the actually retcons of the series go unnoticed, but Big Boss appears alive and "RETCON!" :D

Eva says that it was a cover story...even though The Boss talks about being there. Unless there is another tape saying she was lying to Snake, it's a retcon.
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The Boss did survive, but she was hospitalized as a result, and she and Strangelove never saw each other again. The Boss also never realized that Strangelove had very deep feelings for her. The injuries sent The Boss into another deep coma for six months. The military covered up the accident by claiming that The Boss took part in the CIA's botched Bay of Pigs Invasion in Cuba.

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She also described to him the perceived betrayal of the Cuban exiles in the Bay of Pigs Invasion, as an example of the U.S. Government's questionable policies, concealing her true role in the events of the Mercury Project by claiming to have been there.


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Yeah doesnt really bother me now the way it was handled leaves me satisfied hahaha
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concealing her true role in the events of the Mercury Project by claiming to have been there.
Let me guess, Metal Gear Wiki? :D That's made up rubbish. Nothing like that was said.

It's a retcon. And also I forgot to mention that she went into space in 1960 in MGS3 and 1961 in PW. That's why it was changed.
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Didn't Kojima said there would be certain aspects of the story that would be retconned or changed around in TPP?

Knowing that he said that, this is more of a realistic possibility than most would admit. That said, I still doubt it, although it would be incredibly interesting.
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this is more of a realistic possibility than most would admit.
So it saying Eva is Big Boss' sister, but it's not going to happen...it would make for a nice awkward moment though :D

It would be like a friend of mine, who went to use a glory hole...only to walk out of the cubical to be met by his dad...there is no toothpaste invented :ermm:
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Jun 1 2014, 10:59:15 AM
It's a retcon.
Sure, but at least it's plausible to some degree.
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What, that she said she was in space in 1960, but she was actually there in 1961? There's no way around that, surely?
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May 31 2014, 07:21:25 PM
GohanLSSJ2
May 31 2014, 07:20:08 PM
Kinda agree there. But first of all Swag, I think we can clarify that exposure to radiation might not have truly rendered him UNABLE to concieve a child. But rather, caused some atrophy in his gonads, which made his sperm count decrease to the point any chance of him impregnating Eva, were close to 0, just not completely 0%.
That'd be really bad writing to change it now. It'd totally shit on The Boss' speech, not that I'd mind :P
Not nessesarily. Big Boss WOULD technically still be infertile. I mean, there's even cases of men who had a vasectomy concieve children. The possibilities are not 0, but STILL so laughably low it might as well BE zero, with these conceptions being borderlinew miraculous.

And by the way, sorry for the triple posting, seemed like a sorta bug.
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May 31 2014, 09:28:14 PM
Yeah i dont recall that being retconned
Its in the Eva tape you get in PW and she tells BB that the boss told her all about it. The bay of pigs was just a cover story for her going to space....the government pretty much gave her a failure cover story because she failed w the mole and her crash landing from space.
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I guess this could be possible.
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Unless it's been reconnect by Kojima, Naked Snake mentions in Snake Eater that the Bikini Atoll testing left him sterile so I don't see that being the case!
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