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Phantom Cigar (Confirmed)
Topic Started: Jun 6 2014, 05:04:27 PM (7,512 Views)
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Jun 10 2014, 06:52:28 PM
What's the point of this? So i'm in the middle of the mission (daylight) and then i'm thinking wait, i pull the cigar out and I'm in the same mission at night?
What's the benefit of this feature?
Didn't Kojima said that guard patrols are different depending on time of day? That's probably the reason but I don't think that you could do it in middle of mission - only before or after it.
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DrEdArgon
Jun 10 2014, 06:54:56 PM
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Jun 10 2014, 06:52:28 PM
What's the point of this? So i'm in the middle of the mission (daylight) and then i'm thinking wait, i pull the cigar out and I'm in the same mission at night?
What's the benefit of this feature?
I don't think that you could do it in middle of mission - only before or after it.
That would be sad, hope to do this in the middle of the mission but this cigar catched my attention lol

Can't wait to hear more about it, i just can't imagine how it works yet.
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Jun 10 2014, 06:54:56 PM
That's probably the reason but I don't think that you could do it in middle of mission - only before or after it.
Cigar may have multiple uses, but I don't think it would be an item slot if it only worked outside of missions, and last year's trailer implied that it was used during a mission.

I'd think it would be limited in a similar way to campsites in Red Dead Redemption where you can only use them away from roads and villiages, we should find out soon enough anyway.
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Jun 10 2014, 06:52:28 PM
What's the point of this? So i'm in the middle of the mission (daylight) and then i'm thinking wait, i pull the cigar out and I'm in the same mission at night?
What's the benefit of this feature?
I don't think that you could do it in middle of mission - only before or after it.
That would be sad, hope to do this in the middle of the mission but this cigar catched my attention lol
It feels kind of too easy since you have all this open gameplay feature to plan your tactics before mission - including time of entry and then you notice in middle of mission that the security is too tight in middle of base and think that I wait here and skip couple of hours to see if security is lighter.

As for cigar - I still think that it will have other functions as item. Unless I have missed some important news about it?
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Jun 10 2014, 07:05:33 PM
As for cigar - I still think that it will have other functions as item. Unless I have missed some important news about it?
It might, but it's not even a real cigar. The smoke even has scanlines on it, so it's similar to the idroid display :D It would be traditional for it to improve your aim and things like that, if there's a way you can have it equipped without going to this time mode. Maybe you just have to hold down triangle while standing still to go into the time mode, I think that would work.
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Wait for it to be dark for better stealth. Wait for a guard shift change. Wait for a target to come by in a few hours. Makes perfect sense.
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Jun 10 2014, 06:52:28 PM
What's the point of this? So i'm in the middle of the mission (daylight) and then i'm thinking wait, i pull the cigar out and I'm in the same mission at night?
What's the benefit of this feature?
Lets you forward time and use the day and night cycle to your advantage
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If it allows you to skip time to your advantage, the ranking should penalize you for doing it and should only be a one time use for missions.
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Jun 10 2014, 07:15:36 PM
the ranking should penalize you for doing it and should only be a one time use for missions.
Well, wasn't planning to use that time skipping so much unless there's going to be missions where you are forced to do so.

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Maybe you just have to hold down triangle to go into the time mode, I think that would work.


That still might be a problem since you could still accidentally activate time skipping mode - such as having cigar equipped for improving aim and climbing multiple objects at the same time.
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Jun 10 2014, 06:52:28 PM
What's the point of this? So i'm in the middle of the mission (daylight) and then i'm thinking wait, i pull the cigar out and I'm in the same mission at night?
What's the benefit of this feature?
Guards can't see you as well in night as they do in daytime.
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That still might be a problem since you could still accidentally activate time skipping mode - such as having cigar equipped for improving aim and climbing multiple objects at the same time.

Yeah I edited to say standing still, and obviously away from anything interactive. Sounds a bit flaky I admit.
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all out.

except the day/night guard patrol strenght, maybe some events take place at a certain time window in the game, its actually pretty convenient.But again as i have already talked in another thread about the phantom cigar, i dont think this is its main purpose.Its an equipable item for a reason.
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I wonder how many real life minutes makes a hour in the game
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Jun 10 2014, 08:39:21 PM
I wonder how many real life minutes makes a hour in the game
The game has a six hour day and night cycle accordng to a pod cast.
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It is already said some time ago that 3 hours in real-life equals 24 in-game hours. So unless my math is way off, 8 minutes in real-life equals one in-game hour.

EDIT - If post above is correct, that's 16 minutes for 1 hour then.
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I think you'll have to set the time before skipping it because on the new screenshot depicting it, it shows the options: mode, set, and reset.
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Not necessarily

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MGSV 6 hours = Real Time 24 hours
MGSV 15 seconds = Real Time 1 second
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Jun 10 2014, 11:32:25 PM
MGSV 6 hours = Real Time 24 hours
MGSV 15 seconds = Real Time 1 minute
You're a bit off here. :P

24 hours in MGSV is 6 hours in real time, which is to say that time is four times faster in MGSV.
Therefore, 1 minute in MGSV is 15 seconds in real time.

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I just found out that the cigar is indeed to pass time. In fact it's exactly how i have thought it would be . You can use it in the middle of the mssion and you can smoke as long as you want and choose when to sneak in.

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