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MG REX?
Topic Started: Jun 10 2014, 04:31:21 AM (2,712 Views)
Bladewolf
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
No shit Sherlock, of course is not real, is a videogame, but from MG,MG,MGS,MGS2,MGS3, PO and MGS4 there was a thing called consistency, something that leaved this series a long time ago, with all the retcons, asspulls and out of place tech. I can buy a Cyberninja and REX being in a fictional verse in 2005, its was a 1998 made game after all, but with PW Kojima went full retard and started shoving every thing from the future timeline into the 70s, its doesnt make friggin sense.
For all the shit PO gets, it was consistent with his metal gear tech with RAXA and the IBMG, a nice continuation from the prototype tech from MGS3.
Edited by Bladewolf, Jun 11 2014, 05:11:48 AM.
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I think it's ZEKE but I don't really care as long as they don't try to replace the original with that one. Seriously the TX was fucking badass

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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Mr. Tibbs
Jun 11 2014, 04:16:28 AM
I think it's ZEKE but I don't really care as long as they don't try to replace the original with that one. Seriously the TX was fucking badass

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The thing with TX is, is a very old school 80ish robot desing, Kojima now have a trouble there if he makes the remakes, or you upgrade TX into a more stylish looking mech that doesnt look out of place with the others, or you make a total new metal gear.
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I think he should just keep it. Retcon PW, not MG1 lol it's set in the 80's. Plus, if he changes it, then he'll have to change it in a Snatcher remake.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
I mean the style of art, drawing and desing from the makers of the original game.
After all the shit there is in PW, TX just seems out of place with the other mechs, i mean, BB have REX already, now Outer Heaven's trump card is that egg looking shitty mech? LOL
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I think big boss will steal that metal gear and bring it to his outer heaven base...it looks like its being stored in a mine inside the mountains, probably has to do with blood diamonds.... this is just too exciting. this game is gunna be so bad ass

And its neither zeke nor rex, but very well may be zeke with additions... makes sense that otacon and his father would make similar metal gear designs
Edited by ZhasCOME2, Jun 11 2014, 05:03:49 AM.
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from MG,MG,MGS,MGS2,MGS3, PO and MGS4 there was a thing called consistency, something that leaved this series a long time ago, with all the retcons, asspulls and out of place tech. I can buy a Cyberninja and REX being in a fictional verse in 2005, its was a 1998 made game after all, but with PW Kojima went full retard and started shoving every thing from the future timeline into the 70s, its doesnt make friggin sense.
Ok, here we go again then. It is consistent. In another post you say "AI, Gears, Gadgets, Rail guns, Cyphers", why can't they exist in PW? Even in real life railguns have been in development long before the 1970s, so MG having them in the 70s is not out of the ordinary. Cyphers are like small remote controlled helicopters, nothing special about them. What so special about the gadgets?
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wouldnt be surprised to see nanos in this game.
I would, but we still don't know when they were invented. Contrary to popular belief Naomi didn't invent them. The earliest date the were being used was 1999.

FOXDIE could be in for all we know. Again not invented by Naomi. Although, I could only see it being developed in a lab, killing a couple of people in isolation (because they could get it right until Naomi).

The A.Is of MGS2 and 4 are far superior to PW. PW couldn't - because it was hardwired not to - even perform it's one and only task...JD and friends devised the S3 plan to test their own capabilities and were successful.

From Peace Walker to ZEKE to this new one to REX, they are all consistent with each other and with the plans that they were built from.
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For all the shit PO gets, it was consistent with his metal gear tech with RAXA and the IBMG, a nice continuation from the prototype tech from MGS3.
PW had four legs which is a continuation of RAXA. PW is more Metal Gear than RAXA and it isn't even a Metal Gear.

The TX was built by a completely different person, independent of Granin's designs.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Do you realize that the Arnorlds are just that, primitive cyborgs, dont you? they are still leagues behind from the AI mechs from PW.
So you are okay with the nanos, foxdie, in the 80s, okay i rest my case, buddy you are a lost case, but then again, you are the only person in this world that thinks that this series doesnt have any retcons.
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Bladewolf
Jun 11 2014, 02:36:40 PM
Do you realize that the Arnorlds are just that, primitive cyborgs, dont you? they are still leagues behind from the AI mechs from PW.
So you are okay with the nanos, foxdie, in the 80s, okay i rest my case, buddy you are a lost case, but then again, you are the only person in this world that thinks that this series doesnt have any retcons.
What are you talking about? You don't even attempt to answer. Retcons, there are two (three at a push, not counting anything changed from MG2).

The Arnorlds didn't have people inside them. That's why they are androids.

I don't think either nanos or foxdie will be in MGSV. But it's possible they could be just developing them.

Rest your case? You don't have one :D You snipe in short bursts and don't try to answer.
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It is at the very least meant to look like Rex. As was Zeke. My money is on it being Zeke.

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Bladewolf
Jun 10 2014, 11:44:58 PM
Pretty lazy if you ask me.
It makes Otacon creation seems less extraordinary now, REX was truly an achievement in the Metal Gear mech camp, the most durable mech with the most raw power of the Gears,upgradable with CQC programs, the fact that its body was indestructible and you need multiple missile impacts and plasma cannon shots to destroy the radome show how fearsome that machine was.

Now its just an old machine from the 80s
Rex was far superior to ZEKE. Zeke can be destroyed with a m16. REX survived dozens of stingers, internal damage caused by explosions following the REX battle in MGS1, and 9 years of erosion.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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Jun 11 2014, 02:52:42 PM
Bladewolf
Jun 11 2014, 02:36:40 PM
Do you realize that the Arnorlds are just that, primitive cyborgs, dont you? they are still leagues behind from the AI mechs from PW.
So you are okay with the nanos, foxdie, in the 80s, okay i rest my case, buddy you are a lost case, but then again, you are the only person in this world that thinks that this series doesnt have any retcons.
What are you talking about? You don't even attempt to answer. Retcons, there are two (three at a push, not counting anything changed from MG2).

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You have plenty of people in this forum saying how dumb the tech inconsistency is since Peace Walker
And no, i dont like to waste my time, is obvious that you would eat every bullshit that comes from Kojima.
Everyone and their mother know how inconsistent and retcon filled this whole saga is, even Kojima himself acknowledge that, im sure you know too, unless you just playing dumb.

Also Granin desings doesnt mean jack, unless of course, maybe that guy also desinged Ray and Jehuty :roy:
Edited by Bladewolf, Jun 11 2014, 08:43:39 PM.
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The old "I wouldn't waste my time" cop out :D

There is one consistent person whoever argues on this. The rest always do the "confusing real life for the MG universe" thing.

Retcon threads always fail within a page or two because there is nothing to talk about. Most are just myths and misunderstanding. There is a difference between not liking something and it being a retcon.
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No, he said MGSV would create minor inconsistencies, while ignoring the fact that he already has.
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you would eat every bullshit that comes from Kojima.
Yes, that why I'm saying there are no retcons :cookiemonster:
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They do if both PW and ZEKE were built on his designs...and guess what?
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I think thats pretty clearly Zeke.
Maybe this is Skull Face's base and he stole Zeke or something.
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ballisticola
Jun 11 2014, 12:56:08 PM
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from MG,MG,MGS,MGS2,MGS3, PO and MGS4 there was a thing called consistency, something that leaved this series a long time ago, with all the retcons, asspulls and out of place tech. I can buy a Cyberninja and REX being in a fictional verse in 2005, its was a 1998 made game after all, but with PW Kojima went full retard and started shoving every thing from the future timeline into the 70s, its doesnt make friggin sense.
Ok, here we go again then. It is consistent. In another post you say "AI, Gears, Gadgets, Rail guns, Cyphers", why can't they exist in PW? Even in real life railguns have been in development long before the 1970s, so MG having them in the 70s is not out of the ordinary. Cyphers are like small remote controlled helicopters, nothing special about them. What so special about the gadgets?
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those bald soliders in powersuits
MG had an android in 1995, powersuits in 1984 are nothing.
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wouldnt be surprised to see nanos in this game.
I would, but we still don't know when they were invented. Contrary to popular belief Naomi didn't invent them. The earliest date the were being used was 1999.

FOXDIE could be in for all we know. Again not invented by Naomi. Although, I could only see it being developed in a lab, killing a couple of people in isolation (because they could get it right until Naomi).

The A.Is of MGS2 and 4 are far superior to PW. PW couldn't - because it was hardwired not to - even perform it's one and only task...JD and friends devised the S3 plan to test their own capabilities and were successful.

From Peace Walker to ZEKE to this new one to REX, they are all consistent with each other and with the plans that they were built from.
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For all the shit PO gets, it was consistent with his metal gear tech with RAXA and the IBMG, a nice continuation from the prototype tech from MGS3.
PW had four legs which is a continuation of RAXA. PW is more Metal Gear than RAXA and it isn't even a Metal Gear.

The TX was built by a completely different person, independent of Granin's designs.
Just stop, Balli. You're again sucking Kojima's balls hard (in a way Kojima doesn't even want xD). Everyone who's not as biased as you can see that the technology advancement in MG isn't consistent at all. I don't even think Kojima wanted it to make it consistent. Real 60s technology would have made MGS3 boring. And don't even try to rationalize PW's AI, you suck at it for two reasons: 1. you know squat about AI. 2. you know squat about MG scientific world because it is not real. You can't measure its progress because it comes from a mind that adapts his games to whatever he wants. Reading you trying to be knowledgable regarding MG is just embarrasing.

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They have forgotten Portable Ops once again. That or Raxa wasn't a 'major metal gear' X-D
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
LOL RAXA, that thing was neat, was a nice concept, it was basically a pile of junk that moved thanks to Ursula powers.
Just wait until the new Metal Gear makes the most ''advanced'' Ray and Rex look like toys, if the new weapon to surprass metal gear is indeed another mech, Kojima then dropped the ball REAL HARD, the super weapon made in the fucking 80s XDXD.
Ballistic would justify it of course.
Edited by Bladewolf, Jun 12 2014, 04:54:32 AM.
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Cipher's "weapon to surpass Metal Gear" HAS to be an A.I. It being another all-powerful bipedal mech or something would be stupid. I guess it could also be Solid Snake but an A.I seems like the really obvious conclusion here.
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RAXA wasn't technically a metal gear. Also, Hideo hates PO because he didn't direct it
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
Hideo hates whatever thing is not made by him, hates even more if said thing is better.
Egomaniac prick is always shitting all over other people's work.
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Bladewolf
Jun 12 2014, 05:00:09 AM
Hideo hates whatever thing is not made by him, hates even more if said thing is better.
Egomaniac prick is always shitting all over other people's work.
Did you rike it?
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