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| StealthyOne | Jun 12 2014, 02:16:03 AM Post #101 |
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Btw, anybody else notice how BB name was Jack, as was Raiden's. In mgs2, The S3 plan was meant to mimic shadow moses, with Solidus acting as BB and Raiden acting as snake, his distanced "son." Think Kojima did this on purpose in order to further the similarities between these relationships? Even though mgs3 came out later, i wonder if he made this decision based on the story of mgs2. |
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| Bladewolf | Jun 12 2014, 02:18:51 AM Post #102 |
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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I think he is running out of ideas and use the repeating cycle excuse to justify it. |
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| StealthyOne | Jun 12 2014, 02:23:29 AM Post #103 |
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Yea I feel that. I really hope he changes this dynamic of repetition in mgsv. At this point I have a lot of hope, but also a lot of expectations because of that. Let's hope he doesn't disappoint. I don't think he will. |
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| AbudJasemAlBaldawi | Jun 12 2014, 08:02:37 AM Post #104 |
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I don't dislike or like this, but is quite possible. |
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| That Fat Hispanic | Jun 12 2014, 08:14:43 AM Post #105 |
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Kuwabara Kuwabara
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| ADAMska87 | Jun 12 2014, 08:16:42 AM Post #106 |
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Oh god that made me laugh so hard for so long...It's funnier if you actually play it out in ur mind |
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| Intandem | Jun 12 2014, 10:42:48 AM Post #107 |
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WTF is the fuss about? "Snake" is referred to as "Boss" in GZ so what gives?! Why wouldn't he be referred to as Boss in TPP... |
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| ADAMska87 | Jun 12 2014, 10:48:58 AM Post #108 |
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He was referred to as both "snake" and "Boss" in GZ... the fuss is about the new name and yes we know it's just like "old snake" |
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| Switch | Jun 12 2014, 10:59:23 AM Post #109 |
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I highly doubt he will be referred to as "Venom Snake" in dialogue. Expect "Snake", "Big Boss" and "Boss", with "Venom" being some kind of title that was given to him while he was in a coma (presumably). |
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| Smoking Wolf | Jun 12 2014, 12:07:17 PM Post #110 |
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I love Arachnid's idea. What if Snake has multiple personality disorder? |
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| Black Adder | Jun 12 2014, 02:19:48 PM Post #111 |
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The world would be better without Snakes.
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Or perhaps, Snake doesn't really like going by Big Boss anymore because he hates his mother land and those who puppeteer it, as well as gave him the code name. He probably doesn't start actually using it again until he joins FOXHOUND as its commander. I am almost certain the name is simply just meant to be symbolic of his change in character. He's a Snake that's been messed with for far too long, and he's going to bite back now. Hard. With a fuck ton of VENOM. Edited by Black Adder, Jun 12 2014, 02:21:21 PM.
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| ballisticola | Jun 12 2014, 02:28:53 PM Post #112 |
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He didn't retcon anything. He never said the V stood for Vic Boss, I did ![]() Well, I think it's because of jammy luck He called Raiden Jack because that's what Leonardo Dicaprio character was called in Titanic, and Jack also happens to be a nickname for John. It wouldn't surprise me if he chose John just to called him Jack
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Metal Gear Solid V: Lord of the Parasites - a study of MGSV Mission 46: The Painful Truth The Science of Metal Gear: Who is the dominant Snake? | |
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| Fascist Weasel | Jun 12 2014, 02:36:08 PM Post #113 |
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Why Jack from Titanic, Ballisticola? |
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| Black Adder | Jun 12 2014, 02:38:38 PM Post #114 |
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Because of the love story between Rose and Jack from The Titanic. Rose was Raiden's girlfriend in MGS2. |
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| Fascist Weasel | Jun 12 2014, 02:44:41 PM Post #115 |
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I see. Thanks ![]() I can't see Venom Snake being a codename used by his comrades just like I didn't think Punished Snake would be used by anyone in the game. Perhaps Venom Snake is said by characters in the game though. Maybe his acts of revenge or evil spread from battlefield to battlefield, soldier to soldier. Maybe it is a rumor that nobody believes at first but soon they realise it is all true. Maybe new characters he comes by call him Venom Snake and he dislikes it. They whisper it as he passes by. It has just enough Japanese corniness to be believable. Edited by Fascist Weasel, Jun 12 2014, 02:49:48 PM.
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| Nacktreiten | Jun 12 2014, 05:50:31 PM Post #116 |
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Fixed that for you, because John/Jack was his name.
That's a real poor excuse of not calling him by his appointed codename. Like I said, this is just to appeal to people too stupid to know his codename and just go by generic "Snake". Edited by Nacktreiten, Jun 12 2014, 05:53:43 PM.
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| Black Adder | Jun 12 2014, 05:53:19 PM Post #117 |
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The world would be better without Snakes.
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I don't know, who cares what we call him. We all know who he is.
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| Syke, oh, Mantis | Jun 12 2014, 08:51:09 PM Post #118 |
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The executive function of the frontal lobes involve the ability to recognize future consequences resulting from current actions, to choose between good and bad actions (or better and best), override and suppress socially unacceptable responses, and determine similarities and differences between things or events. Interesting. |
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| Gaseous-Snake | Jun 12 2014, 09:05:39 PM Post #119 |
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Yeah that devil and angel on the shoulders thing is quite popular in animation. Not sure if most here know but its actually based on Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche. Also I suggested the split personality thing before. I think its a definite possibility but part of me also thinks that Venom is just a codename used during the Kaz rescue mission. |
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| avimran | Jun 12 2014, 09:38:04 PM Post #120 |
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I think looking at the Konami posters tells you everything. At the bottom of each poster is the character's codename (Snake and Ocelot). On the side of each poster, however, is the nickname that enemies will give to each character (Venom and Shalashaska). Focusing on Snake for a second, this means that he won't be called Venom Snake (just like Ocelot isn't called Shalashaska Ocelot), but simply Venom. Obviously this is just a theory, but it kind of fits. |
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He called Raiden Jack because that's what Leonardo Dicaprio character was called in Titanic, and Jack also happens to be a nickname for John. It wouldn't surprise me if he chose John just to called him Jack 



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