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Perhaps Big Boss doesnt lead Diamond Dogs
Topic Started: Jun 11 2014, 04:36:21 AM (2,497 Views)
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Jun 11 2014, 11:07:04 PM
You never know with Ocelot. The dude is like a quadruple agent or something. I can definitely agree with the theory of Kaz starting diamond dogs while BB is in his coma. However, the scene where BB shoots his own men definitely reeks of Psycho Mantis. It's like they're not even putting up a fight, considering they've all been trained in CQC.

A personal theory of mine is that Kaz starts to distrust BB after he teams up with skullface. Maybe BB is so focused on getting to Zero that he lost track of his original ideals that Kaz shared.
Is it big boss controlled by psycho mantis? Or is it DD, xof or cypher army being controlled?? Or both??? Maybe mantis is helping with the genome army and this is why les enfants terribles was abandoned. And could that be what the weapon they are working on... So many questions. But one thing is for sure, this may very well be the best metal gear ever or atleast on par with mgs1!
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One of the only theories I'm actually a fan of. Imagine Big Boss just chillin in a room with a few soldiers, he sees one of em pick up a codec call, then all of the sudden all of em turn on BB? It would be a HUGE wtf moment. Granted, I still believe the last scene is Psycho Mantis, but I also got the impression that Kaz was the one who founded DD. After introducing BB to Diamond Dogs, he also helps lead...but Kaz has his own agenda after possibly witnessing something that makes him doubt BB, or maybe he's still working for Zero...
Actually, him still working for Zero or eventually going back to him would explain why he would be helping Solid Snake in Foxhound, cause Solid was sent under Patriot orders.
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Idk wether this forum helps ease the frustration of wanting to play this game or makes it worst lol
Edited by ZhasCOME2, Jun 12 2014, 05:55:40 PM.
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I don't think those soldiers were of Diamond Dogs, they seemed to lack the organization arm band and uniform.
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Jun 12 2014, 05:56:26 PM
I don't think those soldiers were of Diamond Dogs, they seemed to lack the organization arm band and uniform.
I remembered in mgs3 ocelots men have scarfs or whatever those are, and in the new trailer it appears his men are grappling with kazs soldiers...wether they all form together to create diamond dogs remains to be seen but going off of What you said, the soldiers big boss shoots at the end all have the yellow scarfs.

Edited by ZhasCOME2, Jun 12 2014, 06:04:14 PM.
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i think the fourth soldier see and going to sound an alarm
and then BB help him to open his cherry juice.
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I really like a lot of the theories in this thread... It really makes sense when you consider that BB might go off on one while chasing down Cipher, leave diamond dogs and join XOF, all in the hope of finding Zero. It'd kind of be like him joining XOF to achieve his goal even though he doesn't want work with Skull Face and ultimately, that turns out to be his undoing. Bit like how Anakin turned to the dark side to help his wife and ended up getting too deep.
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This time, i think ocelot and kaz started DD.
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Jun 13 2014, 10:10:42 PM
I really like a lot of the theories in this thread... It really makes sense when you consider that BB might go off on one while chasing down Cipher, leave diamond dogs and join XOF, all in the hope of finding Zero. It'd kind of be like him joining XOF to achieve his goal even though he doesn't want work with Skull Face and ultimately, that turns out to be his undoing. Bit like how Anakin turned to the dark side to help his wife and ended up getting too deep.
I don't think BB joins XOF. If Skullface and Big Boss become partners, it's to form Outer Heaven.

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avimran
Jun 13 2014, 10:10:42 PM
I really like a lot of the theories in this thread... It really makes sense when you consider that BB might go off on one while chasing down Cipher, leave diamond dogs and join XOF, all in the hope of finding Zero. It'd kind of be like him joining XOF to achieve his goal even though he doesn't want work with Skull Face and ultimately, that turns out to be his undoing. Bit like how Anakin turned to the dark side to help his wife and ended up getting too deep.
I don't think BB joins XOF. If Skullface and Big Boss become partners, it's to form Outer Heaven.
Yeah but if he leaves Diamond Dogs and partners up with Skull Face, isn't that like joining XOF? That's what I was suggesting - Big Boss and Skull Face join up to build Outer Heaven.
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Jun 14 2014, 12:46:07 PM
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Jun 14 2014, 08:37:59 AM
avimran
Jun 13 2014, 10:10:42 PM
I really like a lot of the theories in this thread... It really makes sense when you consider that BB might go off on one while chasing down Cipher, leave diamond dogs and join XOF, all in the hope of finding Zero. It'd kind of be like him joining XOF to achieve his goal even though he doesn't want work with Skull Face and ultimately, that turns out to be his undoing. Bit like how Anakin turned to the dark side to help his wife and ended up getting too deep.
I don't think BB joins XOF. If Skullface and Big Boss become partners, it's to form Outer Heaven.
Yeah but if he leaves Diamond Dogs and partners up with Skull Face, isn't that like joining XOF? That's what I was suggesting - Big Boss and Skull Face join up to build Outer Heaven.
But then what happens with Skullface in Metal Gear? Because he doesn't appear in any future games unless he got crushed by a tank in the Fortress during construction
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