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| I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea..; I will always be with you. (A theory to upset Eagle) | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 11 2014, 05:08:44 AM (11,738 Views) | |
| Revolver_FOX | Jun 11 2014, 05:08:44 AM Post #1 |
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So at the end of the trailer Big Boss says: "I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. I will always be with you" He states this after stopping a soldier from scattering a specific urn. With BB saying that and adorning ashes like war paint. This had to be someone close to him. It has to either be Chico or Paz. It would make more sense though since Chico is just a boy And the entire events of GZ were to save Chico and possibly Paz. I don't think he would rub Paz's ashes over himself. So what's everyone's opinions? Edited by Revolver_FOX, Jun 11 2014, 05:15:57 AM.
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| Mr. Tibbs | Jun 11 2014, 05:10:41 AM Post #2 |
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Makes sense if it were Chico as I don't think they got any of Paz back
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| Eagle | Jun 11 2014, 05:17:24 AM Post #3 |
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I loled at the part of "a theory to upset me." It may be Chico, but I really think it was just a random soldier, since Big Boss is extremely dedicated to all his men. Besides, if Chico died, why keep his ashes for 9 years? EDIT: It could also e that Big Boss is talking about someone else, such as Paz. I mean, symbolically speaking, the end of Paz started the moment she fell into the sea and was forced to leave motherbase, leaving her friends behind. Edited by Eagle, Jun 11 2014, 05:24:58 AM.
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| Revolver_FOX | Jun 11 2014, 05:19:11 AM Post #4 |
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It just seems a bit much for some random soldier. And chico has lots of sorrow |
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| Switch | Jun 11 2014, 05:33:34 AM Post #5 |
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I suppose I would be happy if this was true. I can't really say that I want Chico to be alive.
Edited by Switch, Jun 11 2014, 05:48:06 AM.
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| uncensored | Jun 11 2014, 05:38:32 AM Post #6 |
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I feel like it's a general statement to all the soldiers he's lost |
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| JKMoneyShizzle | Jun 11 2014, 05:42:00 AM Post #7 |
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agreed i believe this is a general statement to all his comrades, he will remember all of them and take them and their memories in his battles yet to come. The sea will only forget them, he will carry them for an eternity. I think this goes along with Outer Heaven, find a place where all soldiers are wanted and will always be remembered. |
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| Eagle | Jun 11 2014, 05:44:23 AM Post #8 |
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Not really, I mean, there are lots of urns, and that just happened to be the first. And I've been revising the trailer, and it seems like the urns belonged to the coffins that were being cremated, and Big Boss was covered in blood, making me think it was the people in that crash at the beginning of the trailer. It could be Chico, but I just find it unlikely. It could also be Ishmael. |
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| Risev | Jun 11 2014, 05:52:21 AM Post #9 |
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There is absolutely no reason to believe this is Chico. Besides, it wasn't only one person's ashes, there were several urns. This is the most likely scenario: They burned the bodies of several Diamond Dogs soldiers like we've seen in the trailer, who all died due to some reason. After that, they gathered near the sea at the base to scatter the ashes at sea. A soldier comes forward with the first urn with the ashes to scatter and Big Boss stops him. He opened the urn and rubbed the ashes on his face. Big Boss: "I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. I will always be with you" Kaz: "We're not burying them at sea?" Big Boss: "We'll make diamonds out of their ashes, take them into battle with us" Kaz: "A shining light..... For our brothers in arms" This is a way more likely scenario than the ashes being Chico's or Paz's Edited by Risev, Jun 11 2014, 06:01:05 AM.
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| Eagle | Jun 11 2014, 05:57:25 AM Post #10 |
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Agreed, even the order of dialogue makes sense. |
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| Mr. Tibbs | Jun 11 2014, 05:57:49 AM Post #11 |
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You forgot the last bit: Big Boss: "We are Diamond Dogs" Kaz: "Uhh. Yeah boss. It says that right here on our patches" |
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| Eagle | Jun 11 2014, 06:02:19 AM Post #12 |
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New character confirmed: Obvious Snake. |
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| Mr. Tibbs | Jun 11 2014, 06:03:45 AM Post #13 |
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Lol! That's all I'm going to call him from now on |
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| Vergil | Jun 11 2014, 06:08:37 AM Post #14 |
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Eh I dunno, him wanting to make them all out of Diamonds makes me think otherwise. Plus that soldier carrying that urn looked to be first in line aswell, I think he would have done that regardless of whose ashes. |
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| Thermals! | Jun 11 2014, 08:26:22 AM Post #15 |
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I think he says that to the DiDo soldiers that are in the urns. I get the impression from the way Kaz is talking to Snake (while they are burning them) that he's blaming Snake, who probably feels guilty himself for the events that resulted in their deaths. That's my guess anyway. |
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| Ultimasnake | Jun 11 2014, 08:51:21 AM Post #16 |
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I think what would give this clarity is knowing where in the chronology of TPP that moment at the beginning of the trailer is -Snake walking amongst the rubble, bloody and the moment he breaks, screaming. Obviously that is not him waking up after the crash of the chopper in GZ, because he has the robotic arm, so there will be a catastrophic moment on a huge scale once again after BB has woken. I'm just having a hard time picturing if that will be prior or after theDD mother base is built. The ashes I believe could be from after that moment, where snake is walking I ruin. I cannot see snake waking from a coma years later then having all the ashes of the soldiers lost in the PW mother base. Had snake. It gone into a coma and the ashes were Chico's that would be quite strong and powerful, but I just cannot see with withing the chronology of the events. |
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| The Baneposter | Jun 11 2014, 09:04:22 AM Post #17 |
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To be honest this event thing should have been after the heli crash. I dunno it makes the whole ''I can still feel my dead comrades'' thing less strong and kind of redundant since he'll go through that phase with DiDo rather than losing Mother Base. |
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| AbudJasemAlBaldawi | Jun 11 2014, 09:19:36 AM Post #18 |
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It seems that Diamond Dogs suffered a defeat in Africa, so they're cremating the dead soldiers. Maybe grown-up Chico is one of the soldiers killed in that battle. |
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| Kulbelbolka | Jun 11 2014, 09:21:03 AM Post #19 |
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Maybe, just maybe, after Big Boss came back from the coma, one of his first order was to took remains of MSF soldiers who died when attack on Motherbase happened 9 years ago from the bottom of the sea and it's them who are they cremate. |
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| Revolver_Santiago | Jun 11 2014, 11:18:54 AM Post #20 |
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I don't think it was the ashes of anyone specific. To me it looked like they we're just about to begin scattering and Snake stopped them before they could start, like he'd changed his mind. |
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