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Liquid vs Big Boss
Topic Started: Jun 11 2014, 11:15:13 PM (2,381 Views)
That_mAntis
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liquid is still best of snakes, he survived like 20 direct missile hits right to his head in rex and hind fights, after fighting with solid he falls down and is still alive.. then in the jeep chase he got like 40 machine gun bullets to his head.. and then finaly he dies just because of foxdie..

'You try to kill a man, then call him "monster"?
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Big Boss outlived Liquid.
Big Boss wins!


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That_mAntis
Jun 12 2014, 08:09:55 PM
liquid is still best of snakes, he survived like 20 direct missile hits right to his head in rex and hind fights, after fighting with solid he falls down and is still alive.. then in the jeep chase he got like 40 machine gun bullets to his head.. and then finaly he dies just because of foxdie..

He didn't really get shot with Stinger missiles and the M60. It's for gameplay purposes.
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Silly people, Big Boss doesn't fight Liquid...
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Jun 12 2014, 08:59:03 PM
That_mAntis
Jun 12 2014, 08:09:55 PM
liquid is still best of snakes, he survived like 20 direct missile hits right to his head in rex and hind fights, after fighting with solid he falls down and is still alive.. then in the jeep chase he got like 40 machine gun bullets to his head.. and then finaly he dies just because of foxdie..

He didn't really get shot with Stinger missiles and the M60. It's for gameplay purposes.
What he said.
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Obviously if liquid experienced the same injuries as big boss he'd still go into a coma or what have you but the reason why we say liquid is better is because he doesn't ever get taken down, he always manages to escape harm and come back ever harder. He technically has a better track record than boss. Hell Boss gets flat out killed by solid snake in a straight up fight but solid would be dead if it wasn't for fox die
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Jun 12 2014, 09:41:19 PM
Obviously if liquid experienced the same injuries as big boss he'd still go into a coma or what have you but the reason why we say liquid is better is because he doesn't ever get taken down, he always manages to escape harm and come back ever harder. He technically has a better track record than boss. Hell Boss gets flat out killed by solid snake in a straight up fight but solid would be dead if it wasn't for fox die
Yeah, and when Solid fought Big Boss he was an old man with half his body missing. Liquid, on the other hand was the same age as Solid with his body intact. So no, sorry, but even that argument doesn't add up.
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Ocelot was what, 70 year olds and using a prosthetic arm during mgs4? Big Boss would have been more skilled than liquid ocelot, younger aswell. Besides that, the rest of the argument still stands.
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Jun 12 2014, 09:56:51 PM
Ocelot was what, 70 year olds and using a prosthetic arm during mgs4? Big Boss would have been more skilled than liquid ocelot, younger aswell. Besides that, the rest of the argument still stands.
Different characters, different relationship, different situation, 1 extra eye, better arm tech.
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Solid fought a 70 year old ocelot and could barely keep up even with his superman suit. When Solid fought big boss earlier he was in his 50s and only missing an arm which had been replaced with a super arm. Saying Solid beat big boss because he was "old" doesn't really make sense. Solid was even a rookie, not battle hardened like boss. Keep up I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
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Why the hell are you guys arguing logic in an illogical series? :P
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Because liquid rulez
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Jun 12 2014, 10:21:57 PM
Because liquid rulez
Yes.
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Solid fought a 70 year old ocelot and could barely keep up even with his superman suit. When Solid fought big boss earlier he was in his 50s and only missing an arm which had been replaced with a super arm. Saying Solid beat big boss because he was "old" doesn't really make sense. Solid was even a rookie, not battle hardened like boss. Keep up I shouldn't have to explain this to you.


Don't worry, I'm keeping up but maybe you should catch onto the fact that they're different characters? You can dance around it all you want but no there's logic behind what you're saying because it all boils down to "Liquid is cooler than BB".
Edited by avimran, Jun 12 2014, 11:40:39 PM.
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I still think Big Boss is better than Liquid...They never called Liquid the Ultimate Soldier...Solid Snake is better than Big Boss but yeah, thats for another day
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"But I haven't lost my skull.."
He was young and never had the chance because of Big Boss' abuse :'(
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
avimran
Jun 12 2014, 09:26:35 PM
Inspector_Swag
Jun 12 2014, 08:59:03 PM
That_mAntis
Jun 12 2014, 08:09:55 PM
liquid is still best of snakes, he survived like 20 direct missile hits right to his head in rex and hind fights, after fighting with solid he falls down and is still alive.. then in the jeep chase he got like 40 machine gun bullets to his head.. and then finaly he dies just because of foxdie..

He didn't really get shot with Stinger missiles and the M60. It's for gameplay purposes.
What he said.
He is partly right, but no.
He still tanked the anti Stinger missile (you know a anti aircraft shell) right in the face and the explosion of Rex from inside. Liquid is the apex of LET project after all.

The ''but, but butb BB is old'' excuse is bullshit since the guy was still experienced as fuck and with a mechanical arm that give him advantage in CQC, not to mention that he faced a tired green Snake after trashing his Outer Heaven base and in MG2 BB was a armored Cyborg armed with a assault rifle against a unarmed tired Snake after battling Fox and Zanzibar Forces and got bested again by him.
Lets not forget BB bested a bunch of past its prime WW2 vets, The End must be the strongest character in the series by that dumb logic.
The whole Solid era saga is just a more over the top world, not only its characters, also in its enemies, the guy has not only insane durability as a old man like MGS4 showed, he also is a almost superhuman bulletimer in some cutscenes, even the goons are more advanced going from genome soldiers, samurais in powersuits, nano enhanced PMC troops and your casual walking tank or another monster stalking the battlefield.
Its escalation , Joan D Arc would not survive in today military, like the boss/bb would have a hard time in solid era, like solid would have hard time in raiden era.

Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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Thanks for weighing in Blade, we know how much you love Big Boss.
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Why does every topic on this forum turn into an argument? Lol. We all love MGS or else we wouldnt be here. Everyone will have their opinions. Fact is, Big Boss is a bad ass. Liquid is also a bad ass. Solid Snake is a bad ass.
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Jun 12 2014, 07:22:20 PM
Yeah, don't get me wrong I think Liquid is a wicked character.

I just think it's silly to say "Oh, Liquid wouldn't have broken his arm if the Boss had thrown him off the bridge because he's such a badass...". There's no validity in that argument because it didn't happen and until you put Liquid in the exact same scenario faced by BB, you can't say anything for sure. What you can do is use common sense, and say that if an accident was enough to rip off a man's arm then it would do the same for any other person regardless of who they are (unless they're a terminator or made out of adimantium)
This. He was more intelligent than BB, had all of his profitable genes, probably had a rougher childhood. I'd say he's an overall better combatant than BB, but that doesn't stop anything from ripping off his arm. His body is that of a normal human being. Hell, I think BB even has a stronger body than Liquid, being a bit more ripped than Liquid is.
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