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wait a second Big Boss and Kaz can't go their seperate ways
Topic Started: Jun 14 2014, 01:06:22 AM (3,200 Views)
LibertySon500
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doesn't Big Boss eventually return to head Foxhound, and doesn't Kaz eventually join Foxhound as a surival trainer where he meets Solid

they can't have a falling out in TPP or later events wouldn't make sense, why would BB allow Kaz to be a trainer in HIS organization...
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Lol, you again?!

You're the guy who was told to stop with all the unnecessary threads.
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Big Boss and Kaz will part ways whether it be amicable or despicable.

There is a story in Japanese mythology about two oni that were friends, a red oni and a blue oni. The blue oni wishes to befriend humans in a village and the villagers chase him away because he is a monster. The red oni attacks the village so that the blue oni can save them and earn their trust. The red oni speaks to the blue oni and says they can no longer be friends, as if the villagers discovered this, the blue oni would be cast out again.

I imagine Boss will fulfill the role of the red oni and Miller the blue one.

Overall I imagine Big Boss feigns defeat at this point in his war with Zero, with Zero believing he is imposing some Carthaginian peace upon Big Boss, with Boss "abandoning" Outer Heaven and going back to Foxhound.
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Still we carry you.

Big Boss and Kaz join FOXHOUND.
Kaz trains Solid Snake.
Big Boss goes rouge.
Big Boss leaves FOXHOUND.
Kaz stays in FOXHOUND.
Kaz calls Big Boss a monster.
Big Boss "dies"
Kaz dies.
Big Boss dies.
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Big Boss doesn't own Foxhound he just runs it while secretly leading Outer Heaven. Foxhound is an American spec ops unit meaning its under the Patriots control.
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I predict Kaz will be retconned into a new character, dies, and Boss takes his trench coat.
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SlyIsSNaKe
Jun 14 2014, 01:23:19 AM
Big Boss doesn't own Foxhound he just runs it while secretly leading Outer Heaven. Foxhound is an American spec ops unit meaning its under the Patriots control.
Right, but by MGS1 Foxhound effectively turns on the Patriots under Liquid/Ocelot's command and most likely inspired by the fall of Big Boss.
Edited by Intandem, Jun 14 2014, 01:26:36 AM.

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Jun 14 2014, 01:08:01 AM
Lol, you again?!

You're the guy who was told to stop with all the unnecessary threads.
Actually this time I think this topic deserves its own thread. Unless, of course there is already another thread with the topic of BB x Kaz relationship that I don't know of :P
Edited by Snake Eater, Jun 14 2014, 01:27:39 AM.
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Jun 14 2014, 01:26:30 AM
Inspector_Swag
Jun 14 2014, 01:08:01 AM
Lol, you again?!

You're the guy who was told to stop with all the unnecessary threads.
Actually this time I think this topic deserves its own thread. Unless, of course there is already another thread with the topic of BB x Kaz relationship that I don't know of :P
There is, but I couldn't find it.
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Jun 14 2014, 01:12:36 AM
Big Boss and Kaz will part ways whether it be amicable or despicable.

There is a story in Japanese mythology about two oni that were friends, a red oni and a blue oni. The blue oni wishes to befriend humans in a village and the villagers chase him away because he is a monster. The red oni attacks the village so that the blue oni can save them and earn their trust. The red oni speaks to the blue oni and says they can no longer be friends, as if the villagers discovered this, the blue oni would be cast out again.

I imagine Boss will fulfill the role of the red oni and Miller the blue one.

Overall I imagine Big Boss feigns defeat at this point in his war with Zero, with Zero believing he is imposing some Carthaginian peace upon Big Boss, with Boss "abandoning" Outer Heaven and going back to Foxhound.
Excellent post. The story about the two Oni's seems like a great analogy.

Regarding MG, I believe Kojima's said that certain MG plot points would be changed to better tie up the series should he ever remake it after MGS V. So I wouldn't put too much weight on the smaller details of MG's plot when predicting what will happen in MGS V.
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Intandem
Jun 14 2014, 01:26:15 AM
SlyIsSNaKe
Jun 14 2014, 01:23:19 AM
Big Boss doesn't own Foxhound he just runs it while secretly leading Outer Heaven. Foxhound is an American spec ops unit meaning its under the Patriots control.
Right, but by MGS1 Foxhound effectively turns on the Patriots under Liquid/Ocelot's command and most likely inspired by the fall of Big Boss.
Yeah I know but he said HIS, Big Boss, organization as if he owns it
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ballisticola
Jun 14 2014, 01:15:23 AM
Big Boss and Kaz join FOXHOUND.
Kaz trains Solid Snake.
Big Boss goes rouge.
Big Boss leaves FOXHOUND.
Kaz stays in FOXHOUND.
Kaz calls Big Boss a monster.
Big Boss "dies"
Kaz dies.
Big Boss dies.
Best. Summary. Ever.


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ballisticola
Jun 14 2014, 01:15:23 AM
Big Boss and Kaz join FOXHOUND.
Kaz trains Solid Snake.
Big Boss goes rouge.
Big Boss leaves FOXHOUND.
Kaz stays in FOXHOUND.
Kaz calls Big Boss a monster.
Big Boss "dies"
Kaz dies.
Big Boss dies.
Best. Summary. Ever.


Right you are, madafaka!
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Jun 14 2014, 01:28:12 AM
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Jun 14 2014, 01:26:30 AM
Inspector_Swag
Jun 14 2014, 01:08:01 AM
Lol, you again?!

You're the guy who was told to stop with all the unnecessary threads.
Actually this time I think this topic deserves its own thread. Unless, of course there is already another thread with the topic of BB x Kaz relationship that I don't know of :P
There is, but I couldn't find it.
Your objections are void and null until we see some evidence.
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lol well yeah if there aint no doritos then whats the point in living?
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Still we carry you.

Yeah, people are really over complicating the answer to the question, which is "How does Kaz train Solid if he falls out with Big Boss in TPP?". The answer is he doesn't have a falling out with him in TPP.

I'm not turning his thread into another 20 pager :D Not this time! ;)
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Jun 14 2014, 01:37:42 AM
I'm not turning his thread into another 20 pager :D Not this time! ;)
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lol well yeah if there aint no doritos then whats the point in living?
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SlyIsSNaKe
Jun 14 2014, 01:31:54 AM
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Jun 14 2014, 01:26:15 AM
SlyIsSNaKe
Jun 14 2014, 01:23:19 AM
Big Boss doesn't own Foxhound he just runs it while secretly leading Outer Heaven. Foxhound is an American spec ops unit meaning its under the Patriots control.
Right, but by MGS1 Foxhound effectively turns on the Patriots under Liquid/Ocelot's command and most likely inspired by the fall of Big Boss.
Yeah I know but he said HIS, Big Boss, organization as if he owns it
Which he basically does since Big Boss started FOXHOUND in the first place, it only became a Patriot tool after the Outer Heaven uprising.
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I think they'll still be in cahoots until the Outer Heaven Uprising. Then again he didn't let Big Boss know he knew about the sons. He only informed Big Boss about using Zero to expand MSF.
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Jun 14 2014, 04:24:33 AM
I think they'll still be in cahoots until the Outer Heaven Uprising. Then again he didn't let Big Boss know he knew about the sons. He only informed Big Boss about using Zero to expand MSF.
i seriously can not wait for that reaction moment from big boss when he finds out he has sons that are cloned from him.
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ballisticola
Jun 14 2014, 01:15:23 AM
Big Boss and Kaz join FOXHOUND.
Kaz trains Solid Snake.
Big Boss goes rouge.
Big Boss leaves FOXHOUND.
Kaz stays in FOXHOUND.
Kaz calls Big Boss a monster.
Big Boss "dies"
Big Boss "dies" again
Kaz dies.
Big Boss finally dies.
Fixed
Edited by Novitch, Jun 14 2014, 04:36:22 AM.
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