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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 14 2014, 08:18:26 PM (6,075 Views) | |
| ben574 | Jun 14 2014, 08:18:26 PM Post #1 |
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hi guys now ive only played MGS3 and ground zeros and wanted to ask what is the realtionship with the two i know in mgs3 they seemed to warm to each other but from what ive heard ocelot seems to be allways switching sides and no one ever really knows whos side he is on .... is he loyal to big boss or with him for some other purpose? are they friends or just allies |
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| Snake Eater | Jun 14 2014, 08:24:02 PM Post #2 |
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They are friendly rivals. But there was no need for this topic. |
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| StealthyOne | Jun 14 2014, 08:26:44 PM Post #3 |
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I dont think anyone of us can give you a clear answer to that question. Lol. Ocelot is basically a quadruple agent and his true alliances are unclear at this point. But he does respect big boss for the soldier that he his. I think in MGS3 ocelot started looking up to him, in a way. |
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| ZhasCOME2 | Jun 14 2014, 08:46:13 PM Post #4 |
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Yea tough question.... but what i can say is that youve got plenty of time to go play MGS1, 2 and 4 to see what hes all about. Very excited to see this alliance and to actually have Ocelot over codec. Cannot wait |
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| RazorSnake | Jun 14 2014, 09:30:35 PM Post #5 |
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He's loyal to Big Boss. In MGS4, when Solid Snake meets Big Mama, Big Momma tells him that all the things Ocelot was doing wasn't out of loyalty to the Soviets or anyone else, it was because of Big Boss because he idolized him. In Phantom Pain footage it looks like he's working with Diamond Dogs. Keep in mind though that he's still affiliated with the Russians and Cipher. I believe he may play a double agent for DD and Cipher. All I know is that he's always been on Big Boss' side and TPP I wouldn't be surpised by a friendly spar in TPP and the usual questioning of which side Ocelot really is on. |
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| snakeinthegear | Jun 14 2014, 10:16:05 PM Post #6 |
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Play and complete MGS4 to get your answer. Edited by snakeinthegear, Jun 14 2014, 10:16:32 PM.
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| Vergil | Jun 14 2014, 10:25:50 PM Post #7 |
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They are kinda friendly rivals and Ocelot eventually becomes kind've a BB fanboy :p |
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| bigbossbalrog | Jun 14 2014, 10:34:56 PM Post #8 |
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Apparently Hideo confirmed that Ocelot was in fact in love with Big Boss, who didn't return the feelings. |
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| Intandem | Jun 14 2014, 10:42:43 PM Post #9 |
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Ocelot takes up Big Boss' cause when Big Boss dies, so it seems like he's on his side. |
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| Kitty Hamilton | Jun 15 2014, 01:18:48 AM Post #10 |
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Well, here's some commentary from Kojima on their relationship in MGS3... Spoiler: click to toggle Highlights include "It is a pure love" and "Ocelot has already fallen into a dream state regarding Snake". |
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| Bladewolf | Jun 15 2014, 01:30:57 AM Post #11 |
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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they are lovers |
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| RazorSnake | Jun 15 2014, 06:28:54 AM Post #12 |
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I think it just that he saw BB as an idol. But lover just gives off a very weird vibe. |
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| Skoots | Jun 15 2014, 12:13:47 PM Post #13 |
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Big Boss is seen as the ultimate soldier. A war machine of a man. Everyone at mother base probably has the same adoration and awe-like hero worship for Big Boss. Ocelot, maybe even more so, because he aspires to learn from and be like him. In love with him? Not like that no. But in a man-crush kind of way, yeah, probably |
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| NateDog | Jun 15 2014, 01:59:51 PM Post #14 |
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It is definitely homosexual. |
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| townnet | Jun 16 2014, 05:38:55 PM Post #15 |
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Gay lover.
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| James Jimmy | Jun 16 2014, 05:41:11 PM Post #16 |
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Where is the evidence that there is gay love here? I don't have anything against gays, and there are gays and bisexuals in the MGS universe. However, both Snake and Ocelot are straight (we haven't seen any of Ocelot's lovers, but there is no implication that he is gay either). So, where is the proof for this so called "gay love"? Oh, and don't even use the "Go on a date with Kaz" as proof. That was obviously a joke from KojiPro. Edited by James Jimmy, Jun 16 2014, 05:41:35 PM.
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| GohanLSSJ2 | Jun 16 2014, 05:49:32 PM Post #17 |
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Actually, there are LOTS of hints Ocelo is complete and utterly gay for Big Boss, particularly on Snake Eater. Then again, Everyone is Gay For Big Boss in Metal Gear. |
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| James Jimmy | Jun 16 2014, 05:52:25 PM Post #18 |
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I just think he idolizes him a whole lot. But he doesn't want to have sex with him. Another thing to consider is that when a character is gay/bi in the MGS universe, it is not simply implied. It's being said openly (see Vamp, Volgin, etc.).
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| That_mAntis | Jun 16 2014, 05:56:20 PM Post #19 |
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umh... when this Big Boss x ocelot thing started
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| Zetheraxza | Jun 16 2014, 06:19:47 PM Post #20 |
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He seriously wrote that? Sounds like a really bad Yaoi Fanfiction and he made that official, lol! |
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