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What if Paz lives? Paz as Quiet?; GZ from a different perspective.
Topic Started: Jun 18 2014, 07:52:16 PM (3,216 Views)
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Ok, what if the Paz we see in GZ isn't really Paz. Paz may have been ordered by Skull Face to detail an agent to take her role in order to kill BB; but instead Paz told her to go through with the role but to ensure that she doesn't kill BB (possibly under orders from Zero when they met 'face to face'). Hence the agent was 'wrongly executed' and the song Nikola and Bart may be referring to Paz's 'favourite song'.

Perhaps the real Paz is been tortured by Skull Face at the end credits due to her going against Skull Face's orders. Whether Paz dies after this torture would then be inconclusive.

Of course a lot of you are going to reply that this is her been tortured before the events of the game, but I argue how can you be so sure.

Whenever Kojima (in previous mgs titles. Edit: except PW *just before the end*) uses speech simultaneously with the end credits it alludes to future or post-game discussions. So if a dummy took the fall, and failed to kill BB. Perhaps this is Paz at the end of the game undergoing torture from SF due to not complying with his orders.

N.B: This is not a theory, merely a different view of GZ events.
Edited by blingmonkeys, Jun 18 2014, 09:57:02 PM.
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blingmonkeys
Jun 18 2014, 07:52:16 PM
Of course a lot of you are going to reply that this is her been tortured before the events of the game, but I argue how can you be so sure.
You do have a point, but i don't think she lives.
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It would definitely be an interesting twist. And the timeline in GZ is all screwed up with the audio tapes in the side-ops and stuff. I personally think she's dead because, you know. Boom. But I wouldn't mind seeing her come back. The only issue is that I believe her death is a very important motivation for the theme of Revenge in the game.
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If she does come back, I would rather see her as a hallucination or something.
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Jun 18 2014, 08:02:56 PM
If she does come back, I would rather see her as a hallucination or something.
If BB believes Paz is dead, it could be both. That would be a shock!
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If Quiet is Paz, it could explain her torture at mother base with Huey. If we assume they were both responsible for the destruction of mother base and thence been tortured for the same reason.
Edited by blingmonkeys, Jun 18 2014, 08:27:44 PM.
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Not another god-damn Body Double theory....What's next? Are we going to say that Kaz is not really Kaz at all and is someone else?
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Isn't the post-credits conversation just a fragment from one of the tapes?
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Jun 18 2014, 08:33:49 PM
Not another god-damn Body Double theory....What's next? Are we going to say that Kaz is not really Kaz at all and is someone else?
He's not Kaz. He's Liquid. How do you not know this by now? Did you not like his sunglasses?!
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Jun 18 2014, 08:33:49 PM
Not another god-damn Body Double theory....What's next? Are we going to say that Kaz is not really Kaz at all and is someone else?
I think you misunderstood, it is not a 'Body double theory' since my assumptions for Paz's survival are based on a perspective of what the story of the game has told us. Also I do not hold enough evidence at current to call this a theory. Me saying Paz is Quiet, however, is leading towards a theory.
Edited by blingmonkeys, Jun 18 2014, 08:43:18 PM.
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Sorry, but it's a very unlikely theory (considering Paz's death will have a great importance on the "Revenge's theme" in Phantom Pain).

Just my opinion, thought. ;)
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Jun 18 2014, 08:38:36 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 08:33:49 PM
Not another god-damn Body Double theory....What's next? Are we going to say that Kaz is not really Kaz at all and is someone else?
He's not Kaz. He's Liquid. How do you not know this by now? Did you not like his sunglasses?!
My joke got ruined....Thanks a bunch
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will you people please stop with the retarded fucking theories. PAZ BLEW UP. NO BODY DOUBLE. SHE HAD C4 IN HER FUCKING VAGINA. ACCEPT IT.
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better then Chico is Quiet theory
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will you people please stop with the retarded fucking theories. PAZ BLEW UP. NO BODY DOUBLE. SHE HAD C4 IN HER FUCKING VAGINA. ACCEPT IT.
Turn down the hostility eh SG?


But I agree Paz coming back would serve zero (pun!) purpose to...anything really. Paz blew up because XOF put a bomb in her uterus and I'm content with her fate.

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Jun 18 2014, 08:51:51 PM
better then Chico is Quiet theory
that's true
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blingmonkeys
Jun 18 2014, 07:52:16 PM
Whenever Kojima (in previous mgs titles) uses speech simultaneously with the end credits it alludes to future or post-game discussions. So if a dummy took the fall, and failed to kill BB. Perhaps this is Paz at the end of the game undergoing torture from SF due to not complying with his orders.
Peace Walker secret phone call, takes place before the ending.

/thread.
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Jun 18 2014, 09:21:47 PM
blingmonkeys
Jun 18 2014, 07:52:16 PM
Whenever Kojima (in previous mgs titles) uses speech simultaneously with the end credits it alludes to future or post-game discussions. So if a dummy took the fall, and failed to kill BB. Perhaps this is Paz at the end of the game undergoing torture from SF due to not complying with his orders.
Peace Walker secret phone call, takes place before the ending.

/thread.
Ha I always miss out PW. Well noted! :P.
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Jun 18 2014, 09:21:47 PM
blingmonkeys
Jun 18 2014, 07:52:16 PM
Whenever Kojima (in previous mgs titles) uses speech simultaneously with the end credits it alludes to future or post-game discussions. So if a dummy took the fall, and failed to kill BB. Perhaps this is Paz at the end of the game undergoing torture from SF due to not complying with his orders.
Peace Walker secret phone call, takes place before the ending.

/thread.
Out of interest. When is it and why?
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ballisticola
Jun 18 2014, 10:52:24 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 09:21:47 PM
blingmonkeys
Jun 18 2014, 07:52:16 PM
Whenever Kojima (in previous mgs titles) uses speech simultaneously with the end credits it alludes to future or post-game discussions. So if a dummy took the fall, and failed to kill BB. Perhaps this is Paz at the end of the game undergoing torture from SF due to not complying with his orders.
Peace Walker secret phone call, takes place before the ending.

/thread.
Out of interest. When is it and why?
it's after you complete it fully and man if you haven't heard it, ur missing a pretty important phone call...go to youtube..it's w kaz and..


And as this far as this thread goes... It's so freaking ridiculous
Edited by ADAMska87, Jun 19 2014, 12:12:28 AM.
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