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Phantom Pain Gameplay Presentation
Topic Started: Jun 19 2014, 01:09:36 PM (30,189 Views)
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Jun 19 2014, 06:13:23 PM
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Jun 19 2014, 06:10:02 PM
I would like to point out one thing that seemed very disappointing to me. The Fulton?!

I mean the cost of 300gmp and pretty much really high success rate and from what i could see unlimited amount of them? I'm very worried that the fulton may actually be too overpowered if you can use as much as your gmp allows. I mean the guard wasn't even unconscious or on the floor he just straight up fulton'd him whilst held up. Doesn't it seem just too easy?

I mean at least in peace walker ya you could Fulton guards indoors which was stupid, but there was a finite amount of fulton balloons so it wasn't too over the top.

Also guards dont react to it at all?? I mean it was understandable in peace walker but having guards not even notice a soldier fly past them in a fulton balloon is just kinda stupid for a next gen title. It would have been coll if they reacted and shot down the balloon or something so there was some kind of challenge in trying to fulton soldiers, i dunno just my opinion guys what you think?
If you don't like it don't buy it ....
that is a terrible response. you can't just "wave away" criticism
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It's amazing how quickly this topic turned into a bunch of people bitching about graphics and game mechanics. Are you serious? Yes, the game has flaws. But so does EVERY game. Why bother being on a MGS forum if all you do is bitch about the future of the series? IMO the game is evolving and becoming something rad as hell. There are things that could have been done differently, but if you feel so strongly about it, why don't you apply to work for Konami? They're hiring, last time I checked.

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Better yet create a thread called
All the shit you hated about the TPP demo"
And stop shitting on the parade.

Game looks great. Had me laughing all alone at my PC.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no, aside from the annoying and out of place fulton gimmick, this game is not doing anything different from Far Cry2/3 in terms of gameplay.
I can name 10 better looking games compared to MGSV.

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well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps
You cant even read? the only reason this game is 60fps is because is lacking in the visual aspect or better put, is a upped last gen game, you keep hiding behind the ''is 60fps'' excuse, is easy to do that if the game is not demanding.
Edited by Bladewolf, Jun 20 2014, 06:26:52 AM.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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Bladewolf
Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.
I agree with Bladewolf on this lol.
Let I be stated and transcribed for generations to come.

But I wouldn't mind 30 FPS either so they could add a lot more detail.
Keep MGO 60 FPS, but the SP 30 and over detailed.
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I don't care what people say. This game (including GZ) is still one of the best games on last gen, and next gen consoles. As far as PS4 goes, GZ is the best game out right now. Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now. MGS has always been ahead of the game.
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Jun 20 2014, 05:49:17 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 05:40:12 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 05:11:45 AM
lol yes I'm a troll because I didn't fall for the hype.
do you play mgs for the graphics? Im just wondering.

I agreed with you about GZ thought it was a joke and a sham they charged so much for so little btw
I don't play any game specifically for graphics. However a pretty big deal was made with the Fox engine and their scanning tech so it's funny to see hypocrites pulling a 180.
What was so unimpressive to you?
The facial animation looked great.
Maybe a few pop in's.

But what was terrible?
A few pop ins? They are all over the place, as are shadows mysteriously fading into existance not even 15 feet ahead of you. Never mind the absurd amount of clipping. Facial animations are overrated, what with Ocelot looking nothin like his older or younger self and Snake barely getting any screen time whatsoever.
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Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no
well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps open missioned like metal gear?
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Jun 20 2014, 06:18:57 AM
Bladewolf
Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no
well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps open missioned like metal gear?
ARMA III on good settings
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This thread has become annoying. No one is discussing anything relevant to the gameplay presentation. It's become a debate about graphics, fps, shadows, etc.

Go be a PC gamer and wait till MGSV comes out for PC if all you can do is complain about things like that.

IMO the game looks promising in all aspects. Even if I played it on PS3 i'd be satisfied.
And most of you seem to forget that this isn't the final product. There's obviously a good amount of time until the game releases. At least wait until then to bitch about shadows and textures.

Me? I'll focus on the game as a whole. As long as I love playing it, I'm happy. And it's shaping up to be an amazing title.
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Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no
well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps open missioned like metal gear?
ARMA III on good settings
Is that on console??
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Jun 20 2014, 06:18:57 AM
Bladewolf
Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no
well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps open missioned like metal gear?
ARMA III on good settings
Is that on console??
No, but he didn't say it had to be on console
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After re-watching the gameplay demo, I can't help but imagine how easy it would've been if cyborg Raiden did the mission in Big Boss' place lol.
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Jun 20 2014, 06:30:33 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 06:29:06 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 06:25:04 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 06:18:57 AM
Bladewolf
Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no
well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps open missioned like metal gear?
ARMA III on good settings
Is that on console??
No, but he didn't say it had to be on console
But we are talking about MGS which si console only :D
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Like I said, if you hate the graphics, textures, fps, pop-ins, etc.
go work for Konami and fix it yourself. They're hiring.
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kojima is incredible! how the fuck have i not seen that?!
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Jun 20 2014, 06:31:32 AM
After re-watching the gameplay demo, I can't help but imagine how easy it would've been if cyborg Raiden did the mission in Big Boss' place lol.
Raiden would laugh at Skull Face, his pet would do the job.
Karma's a bitch, huh? Fucking hack
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on current gen consoles lol, should be self explanatory
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Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no, aside from the annoying and out of place fulton gimmick, this game is not doing anything different from Far Cry2/3 in terms of gameplay.
I can name 10 better looking games compared to MGSV.

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well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps
You cant even read? the only reason this game is 60fps is because is lacking in the visual aspect or better put, is a upped last gen game, you keep hiding behind the ''is 60fps'' excuse, is easy to do that if the game is not demanding.
I wouldn't take 30 fps instead of 60 fps just for a few improvements in the graphics that I won't care about when I'm 10-20 hours into the game. I'm not speaking for everyone when I say this, but I personally feel that graphics lose their "charm" after a few hours (and get outdated after a few years), while smooth gameplay never gets old. This is what 60 fps brings to the table.

The game is not doing anything different from Far Cry 2-3 in terms of gameplay? I don't know if you really believe that or you just keep telling it to yourself even if you don't believe it, but whatever you say :)

A repeat of your same earlier point. The game is 60 fps not necessarily because it doesn't look good. It's the opposite, the game made graphical sacrifices in order to hit the 60 fps mark. Kojima made it very clear over a year ago that he wants the game to be 60 fps, and that is what he is going for.
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Jun 20 2014, 06:30:33 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 06:29:06 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 06:25:04 AM
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Jun 20 2014, 06:18:57 AM
Bladewolf
Jun 20 2014, 06:08:19 AM
People speak about ''30fps'' like a bad thing.
This game is only 60fps because the graphics are nothing to brag about, is a PS3/360 in steroids, 30fps is more than enough in a slow paced game like this one, is not devil may cry, i would take a 30fps game with heavy graphic work instead of this.

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Graphics and gameplay outmatch anything else out right now

No, just no
well what other game is 1080p at 60 fps open missioned like metal gear?
ARMA III on good settings
Is that on console??
No, but he didn't say it had to be on console
But we are talking about MGS which si console only :D
I only said ARMA because it can 1080p and 60 FPS and MGSV is kind of like it. But in terms of console games, Battlefield Hardline is 60 FPS and 1080p on PS4 and Xbone and GTAV on current gen may have those as well.
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The game looks excellent. 1080p, 60fps with those visuals? Yes, please. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, however, but man, some of you guys need softer eyes. The gameplay looks outstanding. People are freaking out about everything being Fulton'd back to Base, but the levels of Jackie's Mother Base staff were far higher than what they would be at that point in the game for us. Thus, fewer Fulton Recovery System balloons and/or less GMP. And I always hear the argument "There are no 60fps open-world console games," yet when MGSV is mentioned, all I get in response boils down to "Oh, well that doesn't count. Because... reasons?"
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