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Phantom Pain Gameplay Presentation
Topic Started: Jun 19 2014, 01:09:36 PM (30,172 Views)
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I can see it now, there's going to be an S rank soldier with an 80-90% chance of being fultoned successfully, only to have the Fulton fail.
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Jun 23 2014, 11:15:48 AM
One thing I really don't like about the fulton system, is that I really don't wanna spend a good amount of time running around sticking balloons on everything and their mother. I thought this MG was suppose to be serious and in much darker tone. wasn't that the reason for almost not adding the box? It's gonna take away from the realism (not to mention that isn't even how real fulton works) stealth gameplay.. bunch of screaming russians and huge crates being carried away and parachuted in...real stealthy. But don't worry, at least I got this cool scentless, smokeless, holographic E cigar to keep me without a trace.
You're not forced to use the fulton. Vehicles and crates probably won't be required to progress through the story. And soldiers can be carried to the chopper.
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Except its kind of required, really. Mother Base and all, that's a big part of the game ain't it?
The solution for fulton is again, super simple. Don't make it instant recovery, Have the recovery happen at the end of the missions.
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Jun 23 2014, 03:59:14 AM
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Jun 23 2014, 02:57:16 AM
Be honest, no one noticed the downgrade until we got that image comparison. And it wasn't that big of a deal. The game still looks beautiful.
Well yea but you can't unsee it now.
If I showed you a diseased cow covered in shit and said thats what your food was made of you wouldn't be able to just not be affected by that. :P
Wow, it wasn't that bad. And I'm not a graphic whore. :P
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lol well yeah if there aint no doritos then whats the point in living?
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Jun 23 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Vergil
Jun 23 2014, 03:59:14 AM
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Jun 23 2014, 02:57:16 AM
Be honest, no one noticed the downgrade until we got that image comparison. And it wasn't that big of a deal. The game still looks beautiful.
Well yea but you can't unsee it now.
If I showed you a diseased cow covered in shit and said thats what your food was made of you wouldn't be able to just not be affected by that. :P
Wow, it wasn't that bad. And I'm not a graphic whore. :P
lol I know, I don't even agree that it's being downgraded. :P
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I doubt that fultoning will be a major requirement for this game. If you want a sweet Motherbase, definitely, yes, but if you simply want to sneak around and are fine with having an adequate Motherbase then you should be fine only occasionally using the FRS.


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Jun 23 2014, 08:49:01 PM
Except its kind of required, really. Mother Base and all, that's a big part of the game ain't it?
The solution for fulton is again, super simple. Don't make it instant recovery, Have the recovery happen at the end of the missions.
I have no idea what you mean? What, have the soldier lying there until the end or have him floating a few feet off the ground attached to the balloon?
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Jun 23 2014, 08:49:01 PM
Except its kind of required, really. Mother Base and all, that's a big part of the game ain't it?
The solution for fulton is again, super simple. Don't make it instant recovery, Have the recovery happen at the end of the missions.
That's why you can collect diamonds and any soldiers you extract (by chopper ) will probably be sent out on missions to earn GMP.

So no, fulton probably won't be required.
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ballisticola
Jun 23 2014, 09:59:33 PM
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Jun 23 2014, 08:49:01 PM
Except its kind of required, really. Mother Base and all, that's a big part of the game ain't it?
The solution for fulton is again, super simple. Don't make it instant recovery, Have the recovery happen at the end of the missions.
I have no idea what you mean? What, have the soldier lying there until the end or have him floating a few feet off the ground attached to the balloon?
Big Boss could put something in the clothes of the soldiers (or in the surface of vehicles/objects) that would activate after he left the area in question (if it's some minor settlement) or finished the mission.

This way, Fulton would not break the game by eliminating all sentinels with the push of a button, and it would still be useful for base building.
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Are we seriously complaining about this game being too silly? Weren't some of you the same ones complaining about it being too dark a year ago?
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I don't know about the others, but I don't care much about the silliness. I actually like it lol

I just think fulton is kinda OP since it gets rid of enemies completely, eliminating the tension of having them waking up while you're still in the area.
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So what happens if another soldier finds one of these soldiers? What happens if that soldier then goes indoors as you finish the mission?
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Jun 23 2014, 11:24:41 PM
So what happens if another soldier finds one of these soldiers? What happens if that soldier then goes indoors as you finish the mission?
Simple: you lose them. Want 100% of chance of getting them? Extract by chopper.

This would even give the chopper extraction more value. It's harder and takes more time, but it's also a guaranteed extraction.
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Jun 23 2014, 11:20:14 PM
Are we seriously complaining about this game being too silly? Weren't some of you the same ones complaining about it being too dark a year ago?
LOL i remember those times.

Honestly, I just want to see a demo boss battle or something. I really need to know how the bosses will work in this game.

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Jun 23 2014, 11:20:14 PM
Are we seriously complaining about this game being too silly? Weren't some of you the same ones complaining about it being too dark a year ago?
Whoa are you saying people will bitch just for the sake of bitching?
Thats crazy talk.
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Jun 23 2014, 11:27:05 PM
ballisticola
Jun 23 2014, 11:24:41 PM
So what happens if another soldier finds one of these soldiers? What happens if that soldier then goes indoors as you finish the mission?
Simple: you lose them. Want 100% of chance of getting them? Extract by chopper.

This would even give the chopper extraction more value. It's harder and takes more time, but it's also a guaranteed extraction.
Bingo. You want a guarantee? use the chopper. You want an easier, but riskier way? recovery system is there for you.
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Inspector_Swag
Jun 23 2014, 11:20:14 PM
Are we seriously complaining about this game being too silly? Weren't some of you the same ones complaining about it being too dark a year ago?
The people complaining about it being too silly are not the same people who were complaining it's too dark.

I, for one, still want the silliness and quirkiness... I want BB coming back from a mission just to see Kaz and Ocelot throwing an 80s Disco party at Motherbase.
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Jun 23 2014, 11:35:19 PM
BigBadass
Jun 23 2014, 11:27:05 PM
ballisticola
Jun 23 2014, 11:24:41 PM
So what happens if another soldier finds one of these soldiers? What happens if that soldier then goes indoors as you finish the mission?
Simple: you lose them. Want 100% of chance of getting them? Extract by chopper.

This would even give the chopper extraction more value. It's harder and takes more time, but it's also a guaranteed extraction.
Bingo. You want a guarantee? use the chopper. You want an easier, but riskier way? recovery system is there for you.
Alright, so now there's no point in debating about the fulton right?

Im wondering though if you can fulton a helicopter..

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My problem isn't with silliness or whatever, but as a gameplay mechanic could be done better. But on that topic, Kojima needs to tread lightly. It has to all mesh together, can't have one part light one part taboo super dark.
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Jun 23 2014, 11:39:13 PM
My problem isn't with silliness or whatever, but as a gameplay mechanic could be done better. But on that topic, Kojima needs to tread lightly. It has to all mesh together, can't have one part light one part taboo super dark.
I'm with you on the Fulton thing, and I'm not worried about the silliness not meshing well with the serious tones, Kojima made it work in the past and he can make it work this time.
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