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Phantom Pain Gameplay Presentation
Topic Started: Jun 19 2014, 01:09:36 PM (30,195 Views)
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im just miffed that mgs2 STILL has the best enemy ai of the series. its beyond excuseable IMO its 2 gens later
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Jun 19 2014, 10:59:18 PM
im just miffed that mgs2 STILL has the best enemy ai of the series. its beyond excuseable IMO its 2 gens later
I hear ya. MGS2 has the most hilarious AI as well with the Russian accents.
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"Evil is evil...lesser, greater,middling..it makes no difference."
I don't think I've played a single stealth game where the A.I didn't have some level of retardation to it, especially in standard-lower difficulties.
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theres no excuse IMO, but people will excuse it anyway

game looks fun to play either way. still dont trust the story for shit think it looks kinda dumb, but totally interested in being a pirate and ransacking other peoples bases
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I know this is kinda out of topic but it matches with the retarded AI. I was toying with this one soldier yesterday, interrogating him a bunch of times, knocking him out. But still doesn't know I did shit ;)
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He mentioned something interesting... Konami, they claim that what they're doing in Casinos are the missing piece... money, to surpass video games.
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People talking about LZ vs fulton@ at the very least have AI actually react to fulton well. Put some risk in there, have the player be forced to make decisions on either risking the easy way or escorting through the LZ in a slow, but more guaranteed method.
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"Evil is evil...lesser, greater,middling..it makes no difference."
Hopefully they do end up adding an extreme difficulty, that should solve some A.I gripes people may have.
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i didnt see one enemy soldier even react to a fellow soldiers cries while being fultoned
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Jun 19 2014, 10:51:20 PM
as a mgs pro let me bless you scrubs with my opinion of the gameplay demonstration

PROS:
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-motherbase looks insane jesus christ and customizeable? def making my own big shell if thats the case


CONS:
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-the game still has base building
Does this cancel it out to neutral then?
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Jun 19 2014, 11:06:20 PM
Tom Cruise
Jun 19 2014, 10:51:20 PM
as a mgs pro let me bless you scrubs with my opinion of the gameplay demonstration

PROS:
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-motherbase looks insane jesus christ and customizeable? def making my own big shell if thats the case


CONS:
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-the game still has base building
Does this cancel it out to neutral then?
its not really either way

MB looks dope as hell but i still dont like the concept of base building

also doesnt look like you get to decide where to deploy the stuff you fulton
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Oh that was just what I wanted to see, I really think I have seen everything I need to know this game is worth buying that PS4 for, I just cannot accept playing this on PS3.

I love the open maps, but so happy they're not just landscapes, I love how you can travel to a building and go inside, pass through or go around them. I like how you can call the horse Red Dead style. Once again, just so happy with the scope, making the binoculars useful for once. The base building is just fantastic, I didn't care for it in PW, but now that I can actually see the base and explore it, it makes it so much more important, I can tell I am going to spend hours pimping that out.

Seriously so happy with everything I've seen, the slight downer is that the game is keeping that mission structure with rankings. I don't enjoy rankings much in any game.

I think I have seen enough now, just give me a release date at TGS and let me have it!!!
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kinda bummed BB is back in camo again after the sweet sneaking suit from PW/GZ
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Holy shit, this looks good.
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Some info from Konami regarding the demo:

Better quality video: "We're trying to get some cleaner footage uploaded directly to Facebook and YT separated from the live broadcast.

EDIT: Direct Footage... No plans at the moment but will float the idea to brand."


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117272234&postcount=1236

About the game being easy and Fulton being overpowered: "I think here's a good place to mention that anything in the gameplay demo is not final and is subject to possible change before the released version."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117284312&postcount=1321

"The demo was constructed to try and show off functionality as it appears in the game right now without regard for gameplay balance.

I hope this clears things up."


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117286994&postcount=1339



So I think you guys need to calm down about the game being easy, overpowered Fulton, and stupid AI for now.
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Jun 19 2014, 11:18:19 PM
kinda bummed BB is back in camo again after the sweet sneaking suit from PW/GZ
Yeah, I'm hoping that since this is just one of the earlier missions in the game that later on we're allowed to choose our own loadout/gear similar to what we could do in Peace Walker. If the sneaking suit was in GZ it seems like it'd have to be in TPP somewhere.

I love the Fulton Recovery System.
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Jun 19 2014, 10:56:36 PM
The AI is going to be slightly retarded. It's what makes MGS. I'm okay with it.
Could somebody give me a game with a better AI?? (Played Bioshock infinite, TLOU, Thief and GZ trash them all)
Haven't seen a better AI in a while. As I said before it is not perfect but it is better than many other games stealth wise.
It is also hard to compare it with previous installment because of the open world nature.
I hope they improve it a little bit more especially with the Fulton ^_^
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Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake had the best AI in the Series imo. Also i dislike the pop ins and general graphics issues.

Everything else was amazing and i can't wait to salute Ocelot at MB. :ocelot:
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Jun 19 2014, 09:33:25 PM
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Jun 19 2014, 09:14:20 PM
I mentioned this before, but here is my opinion: Great graphics are fine and all, and are very impressive during your first few hours of the game. However, after 20-30 hours into the game, you stop caring about why this plant is not casting better shadows, and start appreciating the fact that the gameplay is this smooth. So 60 fps is almost certainly better in the long run.
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks that way. As long as the lack of shadow doesn't affect the gameplay, I don't care if it doesn't show or not.
Tbh graphics arent a selling point for me at all so i could care less about the downgrade. In the end its like what risev said none of us will care once we are fully into the swing if the game. However what is a selling point for me is the resolution n FPS cause i can get pretty agitated when a game slows down
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Above post speaks sense
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Jun 19 2014, 11:22:11 PM
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Jun 19 2014, 10:56:36 PM
The AI is going to be slightly retarded. It's what makes MGS. I'm okay with it.
Could somebody give me a game with a better AI?? (Played Bioshock infinite, TLOU, Thief and GZ trash them all)
Haven't seen a better AI in a while. As I said before it is not perfect but it is better than many other games stealth wise.
It is also hard to compare it with previous installment because of the open world nature.
I hope they improve it a little bit more especially with the Fulton ^_^
Infinite is a shooter, invalid comparison. Its probably on the level of Thief/a bit better but TLoU definitely has better AI. When you get caught, the AI is aggressive, they flank, they work together and the lack of resources make it all the more demanding.
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