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| My interpretation of events leading to the attack of Mother Base; A new look at Huey | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 22 2014, 05:26:30 AM (2,208 Views) | |
| Talby | Jun 22 2014, 11:47:40 AM Post #21 |
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It may be that Skull Face was okay with either Big Boss dying or surviving - if he survives, he'll assume it was Cipher and go after him - if he dies, a powerful adversary has been dealt with. Either way, Skull Face wins. The only question is, what exactly is Skull Face's beef with Big Boss? The two appear to have a history with some very bad blood between them, but it's still unclear. |
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| TheBoxMan | Jun 22 2014, 01:04:41 PM Post #22 |
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All this will be revealed in phantom pain I hope, there's theory's it's zero right ? |
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| Talby | Jun 22 2014, 01:13:58 PM Post #23 |
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I think there's a theory about Skull Face being every character at this point. |
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| That Fat Hispanic | Jun 22 2014, 01:22:31 PM Post #24 |
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| ZetsubouNoNnoitra | Jun 22 2014, 03:43:07 PM Post #25 |
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And he do that by trying to blow him up!! This doesn't sound rational. I think that Skullface was order to interrogate Paz to figure why she was acting weird at the end PW (she tried to sabotage ZEKE instead of hijacking it). However, he had his own agenda and he wanted to kill both BB and Zero. Used Chico & Huey to get into mother base while he used Paz to get the location of Zero so he could get him next (He said it once "First BB and then Zero, liberation is at hand"). As for Strangelove, she is either went on her on to Zero because she was obsessed with AIs or was kidnapped and forced to work on it. anyway, in both case she could be used to manipulate Heuy. Furthermore, XOF unit tried to kill BB after the 9 years coma so why would they do that if they didn't want to kill him. The only thing that don't make scene is Skully and BB being together!! Maybe this where he gets Heuy back from Skully? |
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| XOFDNUOH | Jun 22 2014, 07:21:55 PM Post #26 |
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I do believe that we will see the development of the SOP system in this game. I remember in the E3 trailer of last year it said, "he mentioned something interesting, a weapon to surpass Metal Gear." If you watch the latest E3 trailer it shows Big Boss' men grabbing a hold of him in a "zombie-like" state of mind. Big Boss shoots them because he has no other choice, because they are under control by the patriots system (He doesn't know what's going on). Maybe Miller talks Big Boss into using this "new system" for more battlefield efficiency, then it back fires because Miller is actually the "traitor" working for Cipher. Big Boss does not want to be the puppet so they use this "system" against him. This is probably why we see Skull Face and Big Boss together because they join forces in order to stop Cipher. They both want revenge on Cipher. Enemies become allies. Or maybe that is not the case.. |
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| StealthyOne | Jun 22 2014, 07:55:52 PM Post #27 |
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Either way, even at the end of PW, Strangelove still seemed like a sketchy character to me. I can definitely see her working on SOP just because she's obsessed with AI research. She made an AI based on an actual person. (the Boss) The next step up is SOP. Controlling people and information. She'd be all for that IMO. She would be good leverage in using Huey to their advantage. I do think that the attack on MB was XOF working alone, and not for Cipher. So that part is hard to figure out. hmm. |
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| Heisenberg | Jun 22 2014, 08:16:29 PM Post #28 |
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There's a thread similar to this in the GZ section, but I always assumed Skull Face used Huey as a scapegoat. I just can't see Huey betraying Boss. |
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| avimran | Jun 23 2014, 01:33:45 AM Post #29 |
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I'd have to agree with that. It feels like Huey really wanted to impress Big Boss by making MSF the symbol of peace but when it goes wrong, he's the fall guy. Initially, he gets blamed, questioned and tortured but eventually proves his innocence. |
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| Heisenberg | Jun 23 2014, 01:52:46 AM Post #30 |
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And then we are "supposed to feel bad" for torturing an innocent guy. |
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| Venture | Jun 23 2014, 02:29:24 AM Post #31 |
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Eh I don't see Huey willingly betraying Boss either but I do definitely think he's involved. I mean all evidence points to him playing a role in the attack. He is pretty weak, probably easily influenced and controlled. Whether unknowingly, or under duress, he helped the attack go down. How did he get off Mother Base, if not by XOF? Then again, how did boss, kaz , Ishmael , and quiet all survive a helicopter collision in the middle of the ocean? |
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| AbudJasemAlBaldawi | Jun 23 2014, 04:07:39 AM Post #32 |
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That would actually be pretty cool if done right. Torturing Huey and then realizing he was always loyal to MSF, but by that point it's already too late and Huey's had it with Big Boss' shit and is convinced he's a crazy motherfucker. |
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| avatarofphoenix | Jun 24 2014, 03:12:37 AM Post #33 |
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It seems like someone kidnapped strangelove. They used her to blackmail huey into allowing the inspection and getting the attack squad into mother base. I think strangelove is the mother of otacon and she dies, leading huey to the woman who would be otacons stepmother and to otacon having the affair with his stepmother as discussed in mgs 2. |
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| The Joy | Jun 24 2014, 07:39:34 PM Post #34 |
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I think that Zero might be behind it, after all. The LET project was halted in '76, one year after BB's coma. It's been said (I think MGS4) that BB was taken in by the Patriots while in a coma, to conceive the clones. This was thought to be another retcon, since no such thing happened in '72, when Liquid and Solid were made. Kojima, however, responded by saying that we should see what happens in TPP, or something along those lines. Snake wakes up in an English hospital (could be an English colony, but since every doctor/nurse is caucasian, I'll assume it's the UK), whereas MSF would have no reason to bring him to the UK, out of all countries. Zero, being English, might do so. The LET project being terminated in '76, implies that the last clone was made circa '75 or that more clones were attempted to bring to life. My idea about this is that the attack on MSF was deliberately carried out by Zero, so he could apprehend Snake and make Solidus in '76, have his perfect copy and finally put an end to the project. GZ spoiler: Spoiler: click to toggle TL;DR: Cipher attacks MSF with no intent to kill Snake, so they keep him away from MSF. Cipher captures Snake when he arrives, uses him to create the perfect clone, Solidus. They terminate the LET project after Solidus is "born" in '75/'76. Zero would never kill BB, so he's kept alive during his 9 year coma. |
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| Venture | Jun 24 2014, 07:49:09 PM Post #35 |
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That's not a bad theory although Paz's bomb does seem contrary to wanting Big Boss alive, even if they deliberately exploded it after she jumped. If XOF had saved Big Boss after the crash they also brought back Miller and the other survivor(s) to the hospital we see in the GDC trailer and then let them go freely. *begins ranting about miller still working with Zero* Liquid said BB was in a coma when they created him and solid back in MGS1 Edited by Venture, Jun 24 2014, 07:53:30 PM.
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| Liquid94 | Jul 1 2014, 11:51:10 PM Post #36 |
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i think with the information we know about skull face, being burned to very near death in a factory could very well link to snake or maybe even the boss. its said that "spies" reported the village factory was manufacturing weapons and was therefore bombed. may be a long shot but maybe one of the spies was snake or the boss? we dont know much about big boss and the boss before mgs3...... |
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| The Joy | Jul 2 2014, 12:09:36 AM Post #37 |
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His first language is Hungarian, though, so the only war it could've been in is WW2 (if there are other possibilities, please tell). Could be The Boss' work then, but I doubt she'd be assigned such a trivial mission. |
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| Solidus Reborn | Jul 2 2014, 09:08:41 AM Post #38 |
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Interesting and plausible theory! I have always had my doubts about the loyalties of Strangelove. I think it is not far-stretched to say she teams up with Skullface or Cipher. But obviously here, it has to be one of them, not both. If you recall, Skull Face in GZ says that "the scientist was the way in." I always took this for Huey, but after reading your post, why can't the "scientist" be Strangelove? Nice thread, man! |
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| The Doctor | Jul 2 2014, 10:39:41 AM Post #39 |
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You know, this theory is a decent one. And if it happens in game, I won't be surprised. It sounds Metal Gear-y to happen and I think it might just work. Everything we've heard from GZ and TPP Trailers up until now actually link to your theory |
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