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Fulton Mechanic is kind of broken
Topic Started: Jun 26 2014, 11:13:02 PM (3,062 Views)
Arachnid
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I've been watching the gameplay, and every time I see the fulton system used I have the same thought. The Fulton mechanic is kind of broken. There is no fear of an enemy finding a body, since you don't have to hide it any more. Just fulton it, and it disappears for good. There should be a max of 3 fultons per mission I think. Otherwise, it hurts the stealth gameplay somewhat. I realize you need to build your motherbase, but it's a bit ridiculous at the moment.
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Risev
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Got it Memeorized?
It's hard to call it broken when the developers have yet to balance the game mechanics in general.
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You think so? The game has a few problems in terms of the ranking system, but it doesn't seem overly broken gameplay wise, with the exception of this IMO.
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Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:15:31 PM
It's hard to call it broken when the developers have yet to balance the game mechanics in general.
Is this all we're going to hear from people until the game comes out? "It's not out yet, and MAY be fixed, so don't voice concerns"
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CryptDemon
Jun 26 2014, 11:16:49 PM
Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:15:31 PM
It's hard to call it broken when the developers have yet to balance the game mechanics in general.
Is this all we're going to hear from people until the game comes out? "It's not out yet, and MAY be fixed, so don't voice concerns"
Those are not my words. Konami themselves said that the demo was for the purpose of showing off gameplay mechanics and features, not showing how they are balanced within the game.

And yes, the "it's not out yet, it may be fixed" is a most valid excuse at this point in time.
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i also have my doubts about how it will affect the mission difficulty, but i hope that the fact that it now costs money and that now it haves a percentage of sucess balances that
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Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:18:38 PM
CryptDemon
Jun 26 2014, 11:16:49 PM
Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:15:31 PM
It's hard to call it broken when the developers have yet to balance the game mechanics in general.
Is this all we're going to hear from people until the game comes out? "It's not out yet, and MAY be fixed, so don't voice concerns"
Those are not my words. Konami themselves said that the demo was for the purpose of showing off gameplay mechanics and features, not showing how they are balanced within the game.

And yes, the "it's not out yet, it may be fixed" is a most valid excuse at this point in time.
Then do we buy a game based on how it MAY be fixed? its a gameplay demonstration, shouldn't it kind of demonstrate how its actually going to play out in game?
I excuse this one though, because this is really the first glimpse into the gameplay that we got. This is more basic conception I think.
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If you watch the Demo, every time the Fulton is used, it comes up

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Assuming this is a currency/points system used in the game, it's likely that the demo was set so that the actual cost was disabled or infinite currency was activated during the demo.
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I like how everyone just assumes we're going to have an infinite amount of balloons or Fultons or whatever you want to call them to just collect every enemy, every vehicle, every crate, etc.

Kojima already stated that we'll have a limited supply. I'm sure eventually after we level everything up we'll have an infinite amount, but as we play through the game we won't be able to just Fulton everything we see.
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There's a cost to the Fulton system, and if Peace Walker's anything to go by, we won't be fultoning everything in sight for a long, long time.
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Jun 26 2014, 11:21:50 PM
Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:18:38 PM
CryptDemon
Jun 26 2014, 11:16:49 PM
Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:15:31 PM
It's hard to call it broken when the developers have yet to balance the game mechanics in general.
Is this all we're going to hear from people until the game comes out? "It's not out yet, and MAY be fixed, so don't voice concerns"
Those are not my words. Konami themselves said that the demo was for the purpose of showing off gameplay mechanics and features, not showing how they are balanced within the game.

And yes, the "it's not out yet, it may be fixed" is a most valid excuse at this point in time.
Then do we buy a game based on how it MAY be fixed? its a gameplay demonstration, shouldn't it kind of demonstrate how its actually going to play out in game?
I excuse this one though, because this is really the first glimpse into the gameplay that we got. This is more basic conception I think.
Of course you don't. But at this point in time, when the game doesn't even have a release window, you don't decide whether or not you buy the game based on a feature like this. If Fulton is so important for you that it makes or breaks the game, then you don't buy the game based on how it MAY be fixed, you wait til its out and then decide for yourself. The internet should make that easy for you.
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Grab that cane, pop that vicoden and tell them bitches it's not lupus!
Oh great, more fulton bitching, just the thing we didn't need more of -.-
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I don't mind the sacrifice of a bit of realism to make recruiting with fulton possible.
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There's a cost to the Fulton system, and if Peace Walker's anything to go by, we won't be fultoning everything in sight for a long, long time.
Not to mention you'll be managing Mother Base and buying/upgrading other stuff. So yeah, I doubt people who want to effectively improve their base will overuse the fulton.
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lol well yeah if there aint no doritos then whats the point in living?
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KoRnFlakes
Jun 26 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Oh great, more fulton bitching, just the thing we didn't need more of -.-
actually until now i haven't seen someone complain about fulton before, so it's not like it is on every post on the page
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Jun 26 2014, 11:29:42 PM
KoRnFlakes
Jun 26 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Oh great, more fulton bitching, just the thing we didn't need more of -.-
actually until now i haven't seen someone complain about fulton before, so it's not like it is on every post on the page
You must be new here. :rolleyes:
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lol well yeah if there aint no doritos then whats the point in living?
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Silent Predator
Jun 26 2014, 11:29:42 PM
KoRnFlakes
Jun 26 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Oh great, more fulton bitching, just the thing we didn't need more of -.-
actually until now i haven't seen someone complain about fulton before, so it's not like it is on every post on the page
Really? Where have you been hiding?
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Jun 26 2014, 11:30:36 PM
Silent Predator
Jun 26 2014, 11:29:42 PM
KoRnFlakes
Jun 26 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Oh great, more fulton bitching, just the thing we didn't need more of -.-
actually until now i haven't seen someone complain about fulton before, so it's not like it is on every post on the page
You must be new here. :rolleyes:
actually i have around half a year as a member but i've been in the page from before making an account, i made it so i could enter the ground zeroes spoilers area, but with the fulton thing im talking about the recent posts, as long as i've seen i haven't seen others complain about it, maybe i just been lucky but i haven't seen it
Edited by Silent Predator, Jun 26 2014, 11:38:19 PM.
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Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:25:09 PM
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Jun 26 2014, 11:21:50 PM
Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:18:38 PM
CryptDemon
Jun 26 2014, 11:16:49 PM
Risev
Jun 26 2014, 11:15:31 PM
It's hard to call it broken when the developers have yet to balance the game mechanics in general.
Is this all we're going to hear from people until the game comes out? "It's not out yet, and MAY be fixed, so don't voice concerns"
Those are not my words. Konami themselves said that the demo was for the purpose of showing off gameplay mechanics and features, not showing how they are balanced within the game.

And yes, the "it's not out yet, it may be fixed" is a most valid excuse at this point in time.
Then do we buy a game based on how it MAY be fixed? its a gameplay demonstration, shouldn't it kind of demonstrate how its actually going to play out in game?
I excuse this one though, because this is really the first glimpse into the gameplay that we got. This is more basic conception I think.
Of course you don't. But at this point in time, when the game doesn't even have a release window, you don't decide whether or not you buy the game based on a feature like this. If Fulton is so important for you that it makes or breaks the game, then you don't buy the game based on how it MAY be fixed, you wait til its out and then decide for yourself. The internet should make that easy for you.
I agree with Risev and Korn. This complaining about the Fulton Recovery System with these nonsense remarks is becoming old fast. If you don't like how it works or feel that it is broken then don't use it. It's not rocket science to just simply not use the Fulton if you dislike it. Simply take whoever you are extracting to the chopper and that's it end of story. There's nothing about it to me that needs changing because it's already balanced with GMP and how you upgrade and if you still don't like it then don't buy the game and stop coming to the forum to complain.
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Jun 26 2014, 11:37:26 PM
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Jun 26 2014, 11:30:36 PM
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Jun 26 2014, 11:29:42 PM
KoRnFlakes
Jun 26 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Oh great, more fulton bitching, just the thing we didn't need more of -.-
actually until now i haven't seen someone complain about fulton before, so it's not like it is on every post on the page
You must be new here. :rolleyes:
actually i have around half a year as a member but i've been in the page from before making an account, i made it so i could enter the ground zeroes spoilers area, but with the fulton thing im talking about the recent posts, as long as i've seen i haven't seen others complain about it, maybe i just been lucky but i haven't seen it
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Really? Where have you been hiding?

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Just go to the right topics and you'll see them. Endless fulton and other PW gameplay mechanics bitching -_-
Edited by Snake Eater, Jun 26 2014, 11:41:26 PM.
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lol well yeah if there aint no doritos then whats the point in living?
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Jun 26 2014, 11:40:53 PM
Silent Predator
Jun 26 2014, 11:37:26 PM
Snake Eater
Jun 26 2014, 11:30:36 PM
Silent Predator
Jun 26 2014, 11:29:42 PM
KoRnFlakes
Jun 26 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Oh great, more fulton bitching, just the thing we didn't need more of -.-
actually until now i haven't seen someone complain about fulton before, so it's not like it is on every post on the page
You must be new here. :rolleyes:
actually i have around half a year as a member but i've been in the page from before making an account, i made it so i could enter the ground zeroes spoilers area, but with the fulton thing im talking about the recent posts, as long as i've seen i haven't seen others complain about it, maybe i just been lucky but i haven't seen it
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Really? Where have you been hiding?

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Just go to the right topics and you'll see them. Endless fulton and other PW gameplay mechanics bitching -_-
maybe that's the thing, i'm more interested in the theories than the gameplay so maybe that's why i haven't seen it
Edited by Silent Predator, Jun 26 2014, 11:47:09 PM.
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