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| A Big Crocodile | May 4 2015, 10:57:44 AM Post #441 |
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Congratulations, you completely missed my point. |
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| JJJ_ | May 4 2015, 01:25:42 PM Post #442 |
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I guess hats are a big thing on TF? |
I once wrote something in the shoutbox. This was the response.ZhasCOME2, on an MG and MG2 remake:
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| A Big Crocodile | May 4 2015, 01:34:21 PM Post #443 |
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That and paid microtransactions *shudders* |
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| Solidus Reborn | May 4 2015, 02:09:27 PM Post #444 |
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I've been hounding them on twitter asking about micro-transactions and they haven't even replied with "I can't answer that" |
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| Rikitatsu | May 4 2015, 03:23:05 PM Post #445 |
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MGO2 had micro-transactions, it's safe to say MGO3 will follow suit. |
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| Solidus Reborn | May 4 2015, 10:24:08 PM Post #446 |
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Yeah, but they weren't outrageous like certain games nowadays. Im worried that they will make a system that, to earn points for gear, it's better to just pay money. Gear earning shouldn't be difficult. I don't wanna see a new chest piece for xxxxxxxxxx points but instead you can pay just 4 dolars or some crap like that...ruins the incentive IMO |
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| (SGR) SEAN | May 4 2015, 11:19:45 PM Post #447 |
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They do have xp boosts so unless their going to give them in "battlepack" like system, microtransactions seem obvious, and since gear is an optional, cosmetic unlock, it seems possible that that will be purchasable with real money aswell.. Its just how it goes now, unlocks that take work to get, have an option to just get it immediately for people that dont want to invest that much time and have money to spare. It encourages this stupid practice, but as long as prices arent too outrageous and the items can be earned, i see no problem with it. However if they start doing the shit cod does where they sell camos for 2$ a pop and cant be earned, unless their animated or something im going to be pissed. Edited by (SGR) SEAN, May 4 2015, 11:21:09 PM.
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| The Departed | May 4 2015, 11:28:23 PM Post #448 |
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to every single one of you guys talking about micro transactions and how unjust they are, let me remind you of one thing: if you wanted a new face or voice or even gender, you either had to delete your character + all your unlocks and start from scratch, or pay 7 dollars for another character. |
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awards and such r.i.p. to the coolest dude we'll ever know
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| (SGR) SEAN | May 4 2015, 11:31:48 PM Post #449 |
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Considering how alts were abused.. It was for the best. I dont remember it costing 7$ for just one slot, I remember it being less.. Otherwise i wouldnt have gotten all 8 slots |
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| The Departed | May 4 2015, 11:41:01 PM Post #450 |
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that whole alt thing was nonsense from the getgo, but i won't get into that, because it still most certainly didn't justify $7 per extra character. (googled it myself, and distinctly recall the price)
http://www.giantbomb.com/metal-gear-online/3030-21414/ to have 7 additional characters would have almost been $50. Edited by The Departed, May 4 2015, 11:42:21 PM.
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| (SGR) SEAN | May 4 2015, 11:46:47 PM Post #451 |
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Hmm well my memory on that is pretty fuzzy then... Wonder why i got the slots.... Well the game was good... Nevermind. Yes for just one slot, 7$ is way to much, even pay to play mmos give you acouple of slots included. But considering when mgo2 was out this was a fairly new thing, i let it slide (its the "be able to shut down whenever they want withought any compensation" that im more worried/angry about) but they should know better now. |
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| A Big Crocodile | May 5 2015, 12:46:13 AM Post #452 |
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Mind you, I don't mind paying for character slots and all, but I'd rather have cosmetic improvements earned via in-game currency instead of real money. And god forbid they start with pay2win formulas like weapon packs and shit, like BF3. If that happens I'm out for sure.
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| DrEdArgon | May 5 2015, 12:56:31 AM Post #453 |
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Keep in mind guys that maintaining and keeping the servers up costs money to development team and it's a business - they need something to cover the losses. And that's where microtransactions come in - as much as that 2 [insert moneyvalue here] may sound brutal, paying it and supporting the servers that way keeps it up. Or alternative is not to pay anything and then act surprised when servers get shut down or there's some unknown problem with them. |
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| A Big Crocodile | May 5 2015, 12:58:43 AM Post #454 |
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Don't we already fork over €50 per year to SONY for that? |
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| DrEdArgon | May 5 2015, 01:10:13 AM Post #455 |
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Yeah, but that money goes to SONY and in return you gain access to online & other exclusive features. Individual gameservers aren't payed with that money. |
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| Solidus Reborn | May 5 2015, 01:25:02 AM Post #456 |
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a good MGO laugh |
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| (SGR) SEAN | May 5 2015, 02:07:11 AM Post #457 |
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Doesnt mean anything if people stop playing. These microtransactions, just make alot of games die faster unless the game is free or the microtransaction is minor. There are plenty of games that have had alot of monetary support and still shut down, have server problems etc. Microtransactions barely help the game, especially AAA games, if the 60$ per person dont help, what makes you think a small few paying for a few ingame boosts will? I mean mgo2s dlcs were pretty overpriced the codec packs and the map packs in general, alot of people bought them, still shut down after 4 years. Aslong as the konami terms of service says they can terminate the service whenever they want, nothing will save the game from closing. Edited by (SGR) SEAN, May 5 2015, 02:20:08 AM.
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| DrEdArgon | May 5 2015, 03:35:52 AM Post #458 |
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Keep in mind that what you pay for the game itself isn't all going for supporting the game servers - most of it goes to people that worked for it, cover expenses that went to advertising the product along with other expenses such as licencing feeds. I doubt that even 10% of that money is directly placed to support online modes. As for "microtransactions barely help" - yeah, it might look that way from customer standpoint but you know how many players buy those things?
Yeah, every game does have that same text, some in different format but the basic reason behind it is the same - meaning they don't have any legal obligation to pay you back in case you (for example) buy online related map pack 15 seconds before services are shutdown for good and you never get a chance to play them. And another reason for that is that they can pull the plug when they feel like maintaining those servers isn't worth it any more. |
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| (SGR) SEAN | May 5 2015, 03:46:57 AM Post #459 |
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Compared to the total amount of players Not many. Not to mention dlcs. Their a minority to say the least, and if you really believe that all the money the game made wasnt going to cover server maintanence, making a game with multiplayer seems kinda stupid. The money the game makes is good enough to maintain it for a 3-5 years at best, and thats with AAA mind you. Dlcs and such boost that even more, at this point microtransactions aint even needed, especially for a game you payed for, microtransactions need to stay in f2p games and thats that. |
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| DrEdArgon | May 5 2015, 05:00:24 AM Post #460 |
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Developers don't create online/multiplayer just for customer satisfaction - it's a business investement and they're definetly not going to blow all the money game made just for it - it's hard to say without knowing numbers how much upkeep costs (equipment, all the electric stuff and salary of people maintaining them) but they won't invest too much for it. Microtransactions are used to cover the initial expenses and in case game is popular enough, they add couple map packs and use the profit to keep the servers alive for few months longer than originally planned. And after online doesn't turn into profit any more, they shut it down. It just happens lot faster if people aren't buying enough of those things or playing the game. |
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