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would a Romance subplot be okay?
Topic Started: May 25 2015, 05:52:05 PM (2,968 Views)
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Actually, out of all MGS games from the big 4, only MGS4 didn't really have a love interest. Now it's left up for debate if you want to actually consider them "romantic" though lol. But when they do add women into the mix to draw in that boy meets girl theme, it's usually done in a way that doesn't ruin the story whatsoever, esp with the original Snakes (Big Boss + Solid).
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If the romance was between BB and Quiet then I wouldn't like it that much because I like to think it's him and EVA if it ever did happen.

But if we can play as some random Diamond Dog and pursue a romance plot with Quiet then that would be cool, in fact that actually has potential to how Quiet can interact with other Diamond Dogs, I mean her relationship with Kaz is already not to hot as Kaz wanted to shoot her immediately, so lets say if we play a mission as a Diamond Dog who has a bad relationship with Quiet and she gets called in as a support buddy, maybe Quiet doesn't trust the player that well and if the relationship is very bad Quiet could even turn on the Diamond Dog, kill him and then that sets in motion the events in which Quiet is tortured as seen in the trailer.
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Personally, I'd like to see some form of desired romance that never takes off. Like Eva returning and wanting to start things with Big Boss. In a non-cliché move however the romance never actually happens because Big Boss is adamant against it as his mind and his heart is elsewhere. Namely on revenge. That to me could be an interesting romance subplot.

Generic hero-gets-the-girl one though? No thanks. I find it annoying enough how almost every movie feels the need to shoehorn in romance plots. Its okay for there not to be romance, people!
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May 26 2015, 05:01:59 AM
Personally, I'd like to see some form of desired romance that never takes off. Like Eva returning and wanting to start things with Big Boss. In a non-cliché move however the romance never actually happens because Big Boss is adamant against it as his mind and his heart is elsewhere. Namely on revenge. That to me could be an interesting romance subplot.

Generic hero-gets-the-girl one though? No thanks. I find it annoying enough how almost every movie feels the need to shoehorn in romance plots. Its okay for there not to be romance, people!
I agree. I want Eva's motivation to be her love for Big Boss but Big Boss to be focused on revenge.
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I'd like a romance that isn't one sided. In games like mass effect or dragon age; it's always been: if you want to pursue x, do y. If you want it, its there. If you don't its not existent. What I'd prefer, is if through actions and words you could unawaringly have characters romantically pursue you. You may or may not want them to like you, but tough shit. Have it awkward when you reject quiet, and have it effect her skill. Big Boss's ultimate weapon could be his sexuality.
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No for Big Boss and no to Kaz (although I could change my opinion on this). The only legitimate romance would be Emmerich and Strangelove but she is clearly portrayed as being distanced or unwilling as is with all MGS romance. Eva already had the boys and say d Big Boss didn't love her the same way a normal man does. Big Boss love can be cosign to sexual relief and nothing steamy.

All that being said as guy who enjoys love stories, I want none for main characters as Love has no place in evil villainous game like TPP
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I think we will hear about the Huey and Strangelove relationship, they end up making a baby somehow, but it will end with Strangelove breaking his heart and him crying.

If Eva is in the game, then she will express affection and concern for Big Boss. But Big Boss won't be in the mood for love or fucking.
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As a funny mission just like those dating mission in PW but not for the main story. This game will be about revenge and how Big Boss becomes the villian. I hardly doubt that something like that would fit into the overall theme of TPP.
Edited by Chrree, May 26 2015, 08:23:38 PM.
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I'd prefer absolutely no romance plots or sub-plots. Yeah, Quiet is cosplay bait. Wouldn't it be nice if she wasn't there for you to date? She was just there for what everyone else in Diamond Dogs was there for? Killing?
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It would be cool to have a witcher/mass effect type romance system where you can (for a laugh or seriousness if you're a lill weird) sleep with the characters at mother base.
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More why I'd prefer absolutely no romance subplot...

Psycho Mantis: "And each mind that I peered into was stuffed with the same single
object of obsession. That selfish and atavistic desire to pass on
one's seed... it was enough to make me sick. Every living thing
on this planet exists to mindlessly pass on their DNA. We're
designed that way. And that's why there is war. But you... you
are different... You're the same as us. We have no past, no
future. We live in the moment. That's out only purpose. Humans
weren't designed to bring each other happiness. From the moment
we're thrown into this world, we're fated to bring each other
nothing but pain and misery."
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I wouldn't want to see a romance. I would want to see a strong companionship. Mad Max: Fury Road did this exceptionally well with Max and Furiosa.
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I wouldn't mind a romance like Meryl and the guy who always seems to have to shit. Akiba? Just as long as it's not as cheesy
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I agree with everyone else with the whole Big Boss and Eva love story. It'll just make more sense like that with all the backstory. If they are going to do a love story between the 2 of them in The Phantom Pain then hopefully they don't ruin this one.
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Eva will return but won't be based off love. She's gonna want revenge on whoever tried to kill her baby daddy. Most likely she's been working with Ocelot and will be there to support Big Boss and console him when he is struggling with the dark side. I can see a lover's spat tho about the twins that'll be....cute.
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I agree for Eva and Big Boss thing.I think Eva is the only person seeing Big Boss as Human in this game.Rest of people will be like let's destroy everything ! And Eva will be like "Stay Calm,and let's think again". I think Big Boss will remember old lovely days of MGS3 with Eva.Maybe Eva is the only person make Big Boss calm in this revengeful journey.Also I think Hanging with Eva in mother base can be great.Or What about Eva is fighting for Eli (plus David maybe) ? This can be different type of subplot if ask me . Mother trying to take back her childs and husband/Lover in battlefield.
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DrEdArgon. you're awesome for reading my mind. I mean it like this guys

-Big Boss falls in love with Quiet
-only for Cipher or Skull Face to kill her in a solo mission
-this makes Big Boss go into manic depression turning angrier by the second
-Kaz and Ocelot try to calm their boss down so that Big Boss would not make a mistake by attacking Cipher or Skull Face and getting him and the rest of the Diamond Dogs killed in the crossfire

because Big Boss is already absolutely miserable at this point. it gets even more darker for him when the girl he loves dies and he's pretty much in shoot everything that's not a Diamond Dog member on sight mode when this happens
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Jun 6 2015, 07:43:24 PM
DrEdArgon. you're awesome for reading my mind. I mean it like this guys

-Big Boss falls in love with Quiet
-only for Cipher or Skull Face to kill her in a solo mission
-this makes Big Boss go into manic depression turning angrier by the second
-Kaz and Ocelot try to calm their boss down so that Big Boss would not make a mistake by attacking Cipher or Skull Face and getting him and the rest of the Diamond Dogs killed in the crossfire

because Big Boss is already absolutely miserable at this point. it gets even more darker for him when the girl he loves dies and he's pretty much in shoot everything that's not a Diamond Dog member on sight mode when this happens
First off, Quiet is an optional character. You may never meet her . I'm thinking optional characters won't have the biggest impact on the overall story.

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I feel like I'm beating a dead horse with the Psycho Mantis stuff... I know most traditional stories and games out there revolve around a romantic subplot. I'm hoping Big Boss stays true to form. Even young and inexperienced, he kept his Snake's camo index at 100% until the mission was over. Now he's old, grouchy, beaten, and angry. I'd like to think he has better things to do than worry about intimacy. His downfall being related to love for a woman is reaching George Lucasian levels of cringe.

But to each his own.
Edited by CIA, Jun 6 2015, 09:59:38 PM.
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