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Do we get to see MG1 and MG2SS characters?
Topic Started: May 26 2015, 07:47:53 PM (2,751 Views)
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May 27 2015, 10:58:54 PM
I'm going for that psycho mantis will make a appearance possibly before he gets powers? That would be a cool angle to approach it from
Well, going off what the previewers have said...
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But they aalready confirmed it's Psycho Mantis. As far as I remember Kojima said so on his Twitter. Well and sure he has his powers, otherwise it would be a bit weird that he can do those things and Mantis even said in MGS1 that he always had those powers.
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I'm going to be really sad if we don't get to see/meet machinegun kid, fire trooper and maybe an early model of the bloody brads. Sure they are a bit lame now, but i think they could make them look interesting.
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I don't think we'll see Running Man since he only joined after he was caught doping in the Barcelona Olympics in 92'. Which is sad because I really wanted to see him. Machine Gun Kid is a possibility though because he doesn't really have a background date of joining Outer Heaven. As well as Dirty Duck! And Shotmaker is a former Spetznaz so maybe we'll see him defect to Outer Heaven. But those are good possibilities.
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Jun 1 2015, 02:34:05 PM
I don't think we'll see Running Man since he only joined after he was caught doping in the Barcelona Olympics in 92'. Which is sad because I really wanted to see him. Machine Gun Kid is a possibility though because he doesn't really have a background date of joining Outer Heaven. As well as Dirty Duck! And Shotmaker is a former Spetznaz so maybe we'll see him defect to Outer Heaven. But those are good possibilities.
you do know those event related to those Outer Heaven/Zanzibar's merc can be retconed right ? ;)
BTW,who need Bloody Brad when we already have those "Skull" bio enhanced soldiers?
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Jun 1 2015, 02:34:05 PM
I don't think we'll see Running Man since he only joined after he was caught doping in the Barcelona Olympics in 92'. Which is sad because I really wanted to see him. Machine Gun Kid is a possibility though because he doesn't really have a background date of joining Outer Heaven. As well as Dirty Duck! And Shotmaker is a former Spetznaz so maybe we'll see him defect to Outer Heaven. But those are good possibilities.
you do know those event related to those Outer Heaven/Zanzibar's merc can be retconed right ? ;)
BTW,who need Bloody Brad when we already have those "Skull" bio enhanced soldiers?
I hope if running man survives the transition he doesn't get retconned. He was so wonderfully plain compared to that nasa space ninja and gray "I just killed my ballerina girlfriend" Fox
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i wouldn't be surprised if most if of the bosses(other than fox and BB of course) were retconned out of the series,as they would just seem weird and cheesy by today's standards.
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Jun 2 2015, 03:54:13 AM
i wouldn't be surprised if most if of the bosses(other than fox and BB of course) were retconned out of the series,as they would just seem weird and cheesy by today's standards.
I don't know about ret-con. But I could easily see them being modernized and tamed. Rebooted in a sense.
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I feel that some gamers would be mad if they retconned bosses that we loved. Like Dirty Duck or Running Man. But Kojima has done stuff that angered people before. I'm looking at you MGS2's Raiden.
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Jun 2 2015, 03:54:13 AM
i wouldn't be surprised if most if of the bosses(other than fox and BB of course) were retconned out of the series,as they would just seem weird and cheesy by today's standards.
I can't see how people like Dirty Duck would be considerably stupider or cheesier than a fat man in roller blades or a guy who uses bees.
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I think some of their names should change (ex. running man and machine gun kid) but their style should remain the same (with some gameplay updates of course). Some names like Dirty Duck should stay though.
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Dirty Duck definitely sounds like a soldier name in PW anyway lol. But I don't see how they could be irrelevant in TPP since so little was developed with them in the NES days. TPP would be a perfect platform to reintroduce them all. The OH bosses didn't really have deep back stories so Kojima could just give them all life and a more developed history without much problem. So let's see, we have;

Dirty Duck, he was a part of a made up terrorist group so Kojima can just add him anywhere in TPP I guess.
Fire Trooper fought for a counter terrorism group from Germany. He could be among the plot of the Soviets vs Afghanistan.
Bloody Brad was made by Dr. Madnar and as far as game production was modeled after Terminator (which btw debuted in 1984). Depending on how far TPP actually takes us, I can see a mission involved capturing Dr. Madnar...maybe we see him develop the Brads.
Machinegun Kid was an SAS member, BB has recruited SAS members before in PW, plus there's Eli/Liquid in this game.
Shotmaker was a Spetsnaz member for the Soviets.

So a lot seems lined up to actually see the OH bosses in TPP, so it's quite possible and there's no telling who may have minor soldier roles in DD from MG2.
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Jun 6 2015, 07:16:07 AM
Dirty Duck definitely sounds like a soldier name in PW anyway lol. But I don't see how they could be irrelevant in TPP since so little was developed with them in the NES days. TPP would be a perfect platform to reintroduce them all. The OH bosses didn't really have deep back stories so Kojima could just give them all life and a more developed history without much problem. So let's see, we have;

Dirty Duck, he was a part of a made up terrorist group so Kojima can just add him anywhere in TPP I guess.
Fire Trooper fought for a counter terrorism group from Germany. He could be among the plot of the Soviets vs Afghanistan.
Bloody Brad was made by Dr. Madnar and as far as game production was modeled after Terminator (which btw debuted in 1984). Depending on how far TPP actually takes us, I can see a mission involved capturing Dr. Madnar...maybe we see him develop the Brads.
Machinegun Kid was an SAS member, BB has recruited SAS members before in PW, plus there's Eli/Liquid in this game.
Shotmaker was a Spetsnaz member for the Soviets.

So a lot seems lined up to actually see the OH bosses in TPP, so it's quite possible and there's no telling who may have minor soldier roles in DD from MG2.
Fire Trooper is especially doable if you consider The Fury. Some of them for sure need renaming, Jungle Evil is one of the worst names in the series imo and I wish they'd of just kept him as Predator.
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I just have a thought. MGS4 was like a reunion for everyone who was alive. What if MGSV is the reunion of everyone who was dead?!
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Jun 6 2015, 08:16:22 AM
I just have a thought. MGS4 was like a reunion for everyone who was alive. What if MGSV is the reunion of everyone who was dead?!
Do you mean people that will be dead in future games or that a lot of people will die in this game?
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You stop right fucking there and apologies Infiltrator . CIA is many things; a has been meme master, a baneposter who ran it to the ground so bad to where it stopped being funny, a complete and utter podcast tsundere but I will NOT allow you to call him a shitty Gary Stu who killed a 7 part book series. That's just mean and unfair.

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I think a lot of the bosses from MG1/MG2SS are reinterpretations as MGS1/MGS3 bosses. For example - The Fury closely resembles the NASA Space Ninja, etc. So I think as a result, we'll see the origins of a lot of the MGS1 Foxhound bosses like Sniper Wolf, Vulcan Raven, Gray Fox, Liquid, Psycho Mantis, etc since the MG1/MG2SS bosses serve as archetypes for the rest of the saga's bosses.
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Infiltrator I mean characters who were dead in MGS4.
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