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New trailer at E3 2015 confirmed.
Topic Started: Jun 10 2015, 04:25:26 PM (50,536 Views)
Tricerius
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I've read a Facebook comment from MGS's trailer which suggests that the blonde girl may The Boss's clone.

Interesting, I have to say.
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Got it Memeorized?
I'm not quite sure that was Solid Snake anymore:

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Kazuhira
Jun 15 2015, 09:05:36 PM
List of interlocutors:

Skullface - 00:00 - 00:45
Kaz - 00:45 - 1:03
?????????????? - 1:43 - 2:00
Zero - 2:01 - 2:18
Skullface - 3:17 - 3:35
Ocelot - 3:36 - 3:52
Skullface - 3:58 - 4:11

Do you agree?
Is that a younger collenel Campbell? Or someone else?
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ZhasCOME2
Jun 16 2015, 12:07:32 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 15 2015, 09:05:36 PM
List of interlocutors:

Skullface - 00:00 - 00:45
Kaz - 00:45 - 1:03
?????????????? - 1:43 - 2:00
Zero - 2:01 - 2:18
Skullface - 3:17 - 3:35
Ocelot - 3:36 - 3:52
Skullface - 3:58 - 4:11

Do you agree?
Is that a younger collenel Campbell? Or someone else?
It's Code Talker.
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You ever wonder...if any of the MGS franchise rations...includes pancakes?

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WHAT, SWEEP?!
Risev
Jun 16 2015, 12:05:59 AM
I'm not quite sure that was Solid Snake anymore:

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Same goes for the clothes. There's no reason for them to be dressed exactly the same.
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It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
Edited by Kazuhira, Jun 16 2015, 12:12:44 AM.
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Got it Memeorized?
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
Identical scars though?
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Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
By that logic, Solidus should be there, too. 'Les Enfants Terribles' refers to the project as a whole, not just the results of the project, so the name can be applied to Eli alone as he was part of it.
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Jun 16 2015, 12:17:04 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
Identical scars though?
And why would they be wearing the same exact outfit with the same necklace and have the exact same hair style?
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Yeah I did think it was both Solid and Liquid at first, but I didn't get a good look at the scars. So perhaps it is just Liquid. Code Talker teaching him to mediate? He looked in a trance.

Reference to Les Enfants Terrible after that shot, was just pretty much hinting that Solid was in the game as well, but the trailer hasn't spoiled for us what he looks like.

Tricerius
Jun 16 2015, 12:00:58 AM
I've read a Facebook comment from MGS's trailer which suggests that the blonde girl may The Boss's clone.

Interesting, I have to say.
I could totally believe that The Patriots would want to clone The Boss as well. But was there anything to it other than that?

It looks exactly like Paz. But then again I suppose it could look like a preteen or teen version of The Boss.

What would be a trip is if Paz were The Boss' long lost daughter. Perhaps Ocelot isn't The Boss' child. But nah that is bullshit. The invasion of Normandy was in '44. Paz was born later around '50?
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Jun 16 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
By that logic, Solidus should be there, too. 'Les Enfants Terribles' refers to the project as a whole, not just the results of the project, so the name can be applied to Eli alone as he was part of it.
Solidus is younger.

Two twins. One is Liquid Snake. Who might be the other? The reference to Les Enfants Terrible at that moment isn't innocent.

In one trailer Kaz refers that Zero is developing in Africa a weapon to surpass Metal Gear. I think it is Solid and Liquid. But I have no doubt that Solid will be present.
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Jun 16 2015, 12:23:14 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
By that logic, Solidus should be there, too. 'Les Enfants Terribles' refers to the project as a whole, not just the results of the project, so the name can be applied to Eli alone as he was part of it.
Solidus is younger.

Two twins. One is Liquid Snake. Who might be the other? The reference to Les Enfants Terrible at that moment isn't innocent.

In one trailer Kaz refers that Zero is developing in Africa a weapon to surpass Metal Gear. I think it is Solid and Liquid. But I have no doubt that Solid will be present.
But since it's ''developing'', it can't be the twins , because they were already born
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Please don't hate me for this but that "I changed too" sounds A LOT like Hayter.

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Jun 16 2015, 12:21:14 AM
I could totally believe that The Patriots would want to clone The Boss as well. But was there anything to it other than that?

It looks exactly like Paz. But then again I suppose it could look like a preteen or teen version of The Boss.

What would be a trip is if Paz were The Boss' long lost daughter. Perhaps Ocelot isn't The Boss' child. But nah that is bullshit. The invasion of Normandy was in '44. Paz was born later around '50?
Yeah, she was apparently born in the 50's.

Besides, Ocelot apparently earned his promotions very quickly because he was the son of a legendary soldier. Granted, MGS likes to retcon, but still.

Maybe Zero tried to clone The Boss as a way to manipulate Big Boss? I don't know. But it's food for thought for sure.
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Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:23:14 AM
EmmGeeEss
Jun 16 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
By that logic, Solidus should be there, too. 'Les Enfants Terribles' refers to the project as a whole, not just the results of the project, so the name can be applied to Eli alone as he was part of it.
Solidus is younger.

Two twins. One is Liquid Snake. Who might be the other? The reference to Les Enfants Terrible at that moment isn't innocent.

In one trailer Kaz refers that Zero is developing in Africa a weapon to surpass Metal Gear. I think it is Solid and Liquid. But I have no doubt that Solid will be present.
Solidus is younger yes, but all three Snakes were born the same year, 1972, so if the LET reference was supposed to refer to all of them and that is Liquid and Solid, why no Solidus too since he was part of the project as well?

And why do they have the same scars and wear the same outfits?

Saying that "Building a weapon to surpass Metal Gear." is referring to the Snakes is really really REALLY reaching, they had already been born more than a decade before, and as far as anyone else knows, the LET project was not carried out in Africa.
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Jun 16 2015, 12:26:20 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:23:14 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
By that logic, Solidus should be there, too. 'Les Enfants Terribles' refers to the project as a whole, not just the results of the project, so the name can be applied to Eli alone as he was part of it.
Solidus is younger.

Two twins. One is Liquid Snake. Who might be the other? The reference to Les Enfants Terrible at that moment isn't innocent.

In one trailer Kaz refers that Zero is developing in Africa a weapon to surpass Metal Gear. I think it is Solid and Liquid. But I have no doubt that Solid will be present.
But since it's ''developing'', it can't be the twins , because they were already born
Developing their skills probably. Maybe they are under some training thing. I don't know.

Maybe the scars serve the similar purpose of Christian Bale's character in Nolan's film The Prestige. They must be always identical for some unexplained reason. And probably Big Boss will separated them and Solid memory will be altered.

It is my guessing.
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Jun 16 2015, 12:31:31 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 12:23:14 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:12:15 AM
It is strongly implied that it is Solid Snake. The twins appear and Les Enfants Terrible are mentioned.
By that logic, Solidus should be there, too. 'Les Enfants Terribles' refers to the project as a whole, not just the results of the project, so the name can be applied to Eli alone as he was part of it.
Solidus is younger.

Two twins. One is Liquid Snake. Who might be the other? The reference to Les Enfants Terrible at that moment isn't innocent.

In one trailer Kaz refers that Zero is developing in Africa a weapon to surpass Metal Gear. I think it is Solid and Liquid. But I have no doubt that Solid will be present.
Solidus is younger yes, but all three Snakes were born the same year, 1972, so if the LET reference was supposed to refer to all of them and that is Liquid and Solid, why no Solidus too since he was part of the project as well?

And why do they have the same scars and wear the same outfits?

Saying that "Building a weapon to surpass Metal Gear." is referring to the Snakes is really really REALLY reaching, they had already been born more than a decade before, and as far as anyone else knows, the LET project was not carried out in Africa.
Solidus was born in 1976.

Just because they made the reference why should all the three Snake be present? The twins aren't representative enough?
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Kazuhira
Jun 16 2015, 12:36:03 AM
Solidus was born in 1976.

Just because they made the reference why should all the three Snake be present? The twins aren't representative enough?
No he wasn't, all three of them were born in 72, the project itself was scrapped in 76.

Let me turn that logic around at you, just because they made the reference, why should both Solid and Liquid be present? Isn't Liquid representative enough?

Edit: Also, don't double post please, we have an edit button for a reason.
Edited by KoRnFlakes, Jun 16 2015, 12:40:30 AM.
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I remember someone talking about the girl or the boy being Raiden , what do you guys think?
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I just watched the trailer some minutes ago, and I'd love to discuss the details of it but shouldn't this be in the TPP spoiler section? I get that it's obvious someone would be spoiled if they click on a topic about a brand new trailer but then what use is a spoiler section if not to shield people from spoilers?
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