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New trailer at E3 2015 confirmed.
Topic Started: Jun 10 2015, 04:25:26 PM (50,533 Views)
ADAMska87
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Jun 16 2015, 01:42:52 AM
Don't know if someone said this already, but did the trailer confirmed Skullface is an hallucination? Right at the end where snake has the big suit, you can see Skullface appear in his back out of nowhere and then disappear??
I honestly think Skull Face dies at the end but Big Boss comes to respect him and might find his story tragic. Plus they both want that evil fucking Brit dead. I think that the part we see in the trailer there is at the end of the game and he kinda sees him as still with him maybe? I dunno, I kinda think thats where he gets his Skull(face) w wings in the Outer Heaven logo but that's just me.
Edited by ADAMska87, Jun 16 2015, 02:02:49 AM.
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Jun 16 2015, 01:59:43 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 01:58:09 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 01:54:02 AM
Crimson Rex
Jun 16 2015, 01:47:50 AM
Where can I see the 'longer' trailer?
Well, the longer trailer is the one that aired first so you've probably seen it:



Where does BB disarm quite?
Look at the post I posted before
Didn't see it. My bad
Edited by Xenocide, Jun 16 2015, 02:01:36 AM.
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Xenocide
Jun 16 2015, 01:58:09 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 01:54:02 AM
Crimson Rex
Jun 16 2015, 01:47:50 AM
Where can I see the 'longer' trailer?
Well, the longer trailer is the one that aired first so you've probably seen it:


Where does BB disarm quiet?
0:21 in this trailer:

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Crimson Rex
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If Big Boss shows Skullface that much respect to develop hallucinations of him, then the fucker is gone off the hill with his insanity. Like making post-revival Gray Fox look rationally normal type crazy.
Edited by Crimson Rex, Jun 16 2015, 02:05:28 AM.
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This trailer just completely melted my brain cells... 10/10
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Fucking hell, this is MGS2 taken to the next level.

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Jun 16 2015, 02:10:15 AM
Fucking hell, this is MGS2 taken to the next level.
Whoa, slow down there buddy. Game needs crotch grabbing and plenty of Raiden's sexy body.
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Major Zero's new VA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lloR_v_KftU
And this is the way the saga ends, not with a bang...but a whimper
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Jun 15 2015, 11:38:59 PM
^yeah that move is pretty sick. King of CQC dominates all.


Hey guys, is the song from the trailer available somewhere to listen to in full by chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LY3ftiLqmE

17 minutes of it, yes.
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Jun 16 2015, 02:25:39 AM
abstract-one
Jun 15 2015, 11:38:59 PM
^yeah that move is pretty sick. King of CQC dominates all.


Hey guys, is the song from the trailer available somewhere to listen to in full by chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LY3ftiLqmE

17 minutes of it, yes.
Or, this.

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SF being an hallucination isn't a bad idea, but there's so much that doesn't add up (but nothing really adds up after seeing this trailer). But it would mean that somehow BB lost it before the shrapnel and etc. We know the shrapnel plays a major role in his mindstate now. I think SF is real, but there's some mindfuckery upon us as well with him.

As for Paz, that's just insane, it's like I've literally just seen a ghost. I've never been so mentally affected by pixels.
Edited by The Gentleman Phantom, Jun 16 2015, 03:17:05 AM.
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The Metal Gear Wiki is saying Paz was actually found in the AI pod.
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Jun 16 2015, 02:34:26 AM
The Metal Gear Wiki is saying Paz was actually found in the AI pod.
Not enough evidence to back it up, I'm afraid.

I mean, it sure got room for her, but I don't really see why she would be there.
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Jun 16 2015, 02:36:00 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 02:34:26 AM
The Metal Gear Wiki is saying Paz was actually found in the AI pod.
Not enough evidence to back it up, I'm afraid.

I mean, it sure got room for her, but I don't really see why she would be there.
Then again, I dont really see how she can be alive!!!
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Jun 16 2015, 02:31:50 AM
SF being an hallucination isn't a bad idea, but there's so much that doesn't add up (but nothing really adds up after seeing this trailer). But it would mean that somehow BB lost it before the shrapnel and etc. We know the shrapnel plays a major role in his mindstate now. I think SF is real, but there's some mindfuckery upon us as well with him.

As for Paz, that's just insane, it's like I've literally just seen a ghost. I'm never been so mentally affected by pixels.
I think the game's gonna push a lot of questions and scenarios surrounding Big Boss' mental state

Is x real or fake?
Are the hallucinations because of the shrapnel or Mantis?
Was he going bonkers before the crash or just after?
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Jun 16 2015, 02:38:45 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 02:36:00 AM
bigbossbalrog
Jun 16 2015, 02:34:26 AM
The Metal Gear Wiki is saying Paz was actually found in the AI pod.
Not enough evidence to back it up, I'm afraid.

I mean, it sure got room for her, but I don't really see why she would be there.
Then again, I dont really see how she can be alive!!!
I can only think of double or GZ being only partially accurate, with the end being different from what really happened (BB had an hallucination).

Implying that she's alive (not a clone/somebody else), and the scene happened during TPP (most likely as BB already had the horn and was with ocelot).

Looks like that such big piece of metal stuck on his brain is (unsurprisingly) fucking up with BB's perception of reality.
Edited by Tricerius, Jun 16 2015, 02:44:36 AM.
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Jun 16 2015, 02:12:48 AM
Intandem
Jun 16 2015, 02:10:15 AM
Fucking hell, this is MGS2 taken to the next level.
Whoa, slow down there buddy. Game needs crotch grabbing and plenty of Raiden's sexy body.
LOL!

I mean more about the meta narrative/meta story. Seems MGSV is going to tackle information control on another level than MGS2/MGS4.

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"Nine years later, the Diamond Dogs discovered an AI pod, and also discovered Paz inside, where she was placed after a cyborg from the future traveled back in time to rescue her. "

Metalgear wiki description for Paz's appearance in TPP.

Where the hell did that come from? They really have to restrict the editing for the wiki.
Edited by Tricerius, Jun 16 2015, 02:55:52 AM.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we have to decide what's real or phantom. Honestly, this trailer has literally wiped the slate clean on everything we predicted. Apart for maybe the BB & SF team-up. Paz's return as I predicted seems to be in the mix as well.

I think at this stage it does seem that BB and SF are a sort of mirror image. That shot especially where SF is staring an inverted BB down best captures this. They share an uncanny resemblence. Hence why the mirror was also in the room where BB listens to the tape. As if SF's story captures BB's life. It is a fair assumption to believe SF is merely a figment of BB's mind. Perhaps because BB didn't have the guts to identify himself with such a dark character or admit his own moral demise (smashing the mirror).

Now what we need to understand from here is how SF interacts with other characters e.g Huey. Which is in no way an easy feat. I'm thinking rather than a mere hallucination. SF is a spirit, representing the duality of BB. Not to say BB doesn't really turn evil. But, rather that SF is some sort of uncanny physical construct created by BB's mind to aid his process of coping with evil.

Perhaps SF is someone raised from the dead? I think Code Talker will have a lot to do with this spiritual issue of BB. But I think it's noticeably present. That somehow BB and SF are related spiritually in an abnormal way.

Edited by blingmonkeys, Jun 16 2015, 03:11:47 AM.
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Jun 16 2015, 12:38:47 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 12:36:03 AM
Solidus was born in 1976.

Just because they made the reference why should all the three Snake be present? The twins aren't representative enough?
No he wasn't, all three of them were born in 72, the project itself was scrapped in 76.

Let me turn that logic around at you, just because they made the reference, why should both Solid and Liquid be present? Isn't Liquid representative enough?

Edit: Also, don't double post please, we have an edit button for a reason.
Liquid is representative enough. But unfortunately we have two "Liquids". How do you explain that? Do you have a more plausible explanation than the obvious one (Solid)?
Edited by Kazuhira, Jun 16 2015, 03:12:21 AM.
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