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| Znake | Jun 16 2015, 03:23:29 AM Post #641 |
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That music is so dark and 80'sh. First Nuclear then this... how can Kojima pick so well the music to his trailers theme? Incredible, this single music itself transmits emotions. |
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| Intandem | Jun 16 2015, 03:24:56 AM Post #642 |
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Hmm, I like your way of thinking. In GZ during the Glaz and Palitz sideop, one of them revels to Big Boss when interrogated that "you're a phantom too..." or something along those lines. This immediately draws a parallel between Big Boss and Skullface as being the two phantoms. Whether Skullface is real or just a figment of Big Boss' imagination is uncertain, but it is certain that both identities share the same inner spirit/energy. Others who meet the two can feel/sense the resemblance. Maybe it has to do with The Boss, but I can't get Zero out of mind as being the bridge between the phantoms. |
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| blingmonkeys | Jun 16 2015, 03:36:28 AM Post #643 |
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Edit: I'm too tired, I shouldn't be coming up with new theories now, aha. Edited by blingmonkeys, Jun 16 2015, 03:40:23 AM.
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| The Departed | Jun 16 2015, 04:00:54 AM Post #644 |
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literally, the only way skull face can be a figment of kiefersnake's imagination is if gz never happened. and i don't just mean the mission, i mean everything at camp omega. skull face had a physical presence that was noted by everyone there: paz said something along the lines of, "you won't be able to hide that hideous face!" and then of course, the actual marines periodically mentioning skull face, talking about his weapons, his appearance, and that particular marine who said, "and what about their commander? you didn't need an up close look to know that was no mask..." i stand by the notion that skull face is a completely real person and his backstory is his, but that he truly does mirror big boss in a lot of ways and reflex similar ideals. skull face's final line in the trailer about eternal conflict making the world whole sounds like something straight from kiefersnake's mouth hole. i figure that's just him seeing skull face, knowing he's in his head, or even just realizing he owes the metal gear to skull face. that memorial idea was interesting too, especially if kiefersnake has it, knowing what skull face has done to him. but i just don't see how what happened in gz can be fiction, and if it isn't fiction, then skull face had a physical presence here. which means i won't be robbed of a boss fight with him, god willing. blindfox i know you posted this a long time ago, but no, kojima already confirmed we have traditional boss fights, and so far, we know that includes the skulls and pyro-volgin. in fact, vehicles have been demoted to 'advanced enemies' and not actual bosses, so huzzah, i say. |
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awards and such r.i.p. to the coolest dude we'll ever know
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| Intandem | Jun 16 2015, 04:12:07 AM Post #645 |
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I too believe Skullface to be real. The only way I can see GZ not happening in reality, or as it actually happened, is if GZ is just a dream scenario played out while Big Boss is in the coma. Outer Heaven will either be founded co-operatively by Skullface and Big Boss, or Skullface's ideals lend heavily towards Big Boss' creation of Outer Heaven. This much is certain. |
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| Pinochet89 | Jun 16 2015, 04:24:03 AM Post #646 |
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Couldn't Paz's appearance be a flashback before the events in GZ? Like shortly after being rescued by a fisherman? |
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| Syke, oh, Mantis | Jun 16 2015, 04:28:46 AM Post #647 |
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Skullface=Ishmael. |
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| The Gentleman Phantom | Jun 16 2015, 04:29:58 AM Post #648 |
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Not with those scars on the stomach. I think that was her body, the top was barely seen but it was left covered as if it was a woman's body, looked like the same location from when we see Paz's face in the trailer. |
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| OMG_Its_Grayfox | Jun 16 2015, 04:30:52 AM Post #649 |
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I like the way you think. |
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| The Departed | Jun 16 2015, 04:32:08 AM Post #650 |
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no, because kiefersnake had his robot hand and demon horn in that scene. i know some could argue that the two scenes are separate with the scar on her bloodied stomach and her seeming dazed, but the mere fact that she had a body left to find after exploding would suggest otherwise. |
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awards and such r.i.p. to the coolest dude we'll ever know
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| Pinochet89 | Jun 16 2015, 04:37:08 AM Post #651 |
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It has to be a hallucination or a clone (The fact that they show the AI Pod from peace walker makes me guess they have a copy of her consciousness and then they clone her body ).
Edited by Pinochet89, Jun 16 2015, 04:38:00 AM.
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| Tricerius | Jun 16 2015, 04:42:04 AM Post #652 |
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Hard for hallucination if Ocelot is right besides him, if you ask me. Clone? Maybe. But that doesn't explain the V-shaped stitches. |
![]() Zero people prosper, yet the nation dies out The ignorants dance in their own world Governance and rule to them are only dreams Rise and Fall politics; merely a game of Go | |
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| pandro | Jun 16 2015, 04:46:17 AM Post #653 |
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Maybe boss have this kind of mental disorder, like this movie http://youtu.be/188X5xOa2Mg |
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| ideologic | Jun 16 2015, 04:46:37 AM Post #654 |
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Sooooo... how's that new trailer? I'm debating on whether to watch it. Spoilers? |
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tha diamonddoggfather Add me on PSN ideologic_ mofuggin tactical operational dick in yo mouth, beeeatch. ![]() Diamond Dogs Recruitment - Aw shit. Old lady sent ya to the doghouse ageeein? Make sure its this one. other sigs and stuff
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| Tricerius | Jun 16 2015, 04:49:20 AM Post #655 |
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There are. But there are shitloads of mindfucks. IMO? It's worth watching it. Edited by Tricerius, Jun 16 2015, 04:49:32 AM.
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| ZhasCOME2 | Jun 16 2015, 04:49:22 AM Post #656 |
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One of my theories before was that big boss has an angel on his shoulder and a devil. So Ishmael and Skull face. If they are both hallucinations. In the trailer, someone is describing Skull face or maybe it's skull face talking about himself(can't remember) but he says his leader changes and so does he. And we see different big bosses. I think it's safe to say, wether skull face is real or not, that he becomes big bosses new mentor. And this is what leads him down the dark path. |
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| ideologic | Jun 16 2015, 04:50:10 AM Post #657 |
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Sounds good - that's what I like out of my trailers: questions, not answers. |
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tha diamonddoggfather Add me on PSN ideologic_ mofuggin tactical operational dick in yo mouth, beeeatch. ![]() Diamond Dogs Recruitment - Aw shit. Old lady sent ya to the doghouse ageeein? Make sure its this one. other sigs and stuff
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| Tricerius | Jun 16 2015, 04:50:45 AM Post #658 |
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Oh, if you're looking for questions, then by all means watch it. |
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| abstract-one | Jun 16 2015, 04:56:52 AM Post #659 |
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Yes its fairly spoiler heavy. Anyone who is telling you otherwise is lying or has a very high standard for what can be considered spoilers. People say it asks more questions than it answers, but there are still tidbits that are inherently spoilers even if one is confused about the implications of what one is seeing/hearing. I was on the fence about watching, but couldn't resist. I don't regret watching it, but then I'm not the type of person to feel regret. |
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| Mar | Jun 16 2015, 05:09:57 AM Post #660 |
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"Evil is evil...lesser, greater,middling..it makes no difference."
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Skully is definitely the irreparably mentally and physically scarred misanthropic/nihilistic torturing son of a bitch this series has needed for quite some time. Yet his voice is so soothing.
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