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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 10 2015, 04:25:26 PM (50,528 Views) | |
| Tricerius | Jun 16 2015, 02:18:44 PM Post #721 |
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I'm not saying they didn't happen. I'm saying that they *may have* happened in a different way. Besides, a piece of sharpnel stuck in your brain isn't a requirement for hallucinations. Fatigue perhaps? I don't know really. But seeing Paz's abdomen with the V shaped stitches being seen by Big Boss (clearly after GZ) and Ocelot strongly suggests that the final moments shown in GZ may not be the real thing. Edited by Tricerius, Jun 16 2015, 02:19:54 PM.
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| Thermals! | Jun 16 2015, 02:29:31 PM Post #722 |
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All i know is there's going to be some mindfuckery involving GZ and my body will not be ready for it at all. |
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| gpack418 | Jun 16 2015, 02:37:42 PM Post #723 |
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Oh ok. I thought you meant it didn't happen at all. My mistake. I can agree that it's a possibility that maybe we're mislead by the ending of GZ. So it looks another way than it actually happened. Especially with Paz. I don't know how to take her being back and in a living state. But as far as shrapnel, its not the only thing that makes people hallucinate, but its confirmed that it is what makes BB hallucinate |
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| Tricerius | Jun 16 2015, 02:47:10 PM Post #724 |
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It is a reason why BB hallucinates during TPP, but he can still hallucinate because of other things in GZ. Then again, I'd guess that fatigue is what caused him to hallucinate. I'm obviously no expert on the topic. Edited by Tricerius, Jun 16 2015, 02:48:27 PM.
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| Old Liquid | Jun 16 2015, 02:53:29 PM Post #725 |
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Lol to everyone denying Solid Snake is in the trailer. Yes their clothes, hair, scars look identical, but has no one ever considered the plot behind both of them sitting somberly inside the chopper. Perhaps they have been kidnapped and are dressed the same to confuse Big Boss or something from either killing or rescuing the wrong Snake. He did love Liquid the most. |
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| Jim Houseman | Jun 16 2015, 03:18:12 PM Post #726 |
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What's the second one sitting on? |
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| Night Fright | Jun 16 2015, 03:37:54 PM Post #727 |
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thanks god,a full script of the 1st trailer http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681794-metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/71996393 |
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| vlad06 | Jun 16 2015, 03:58:57 PM Post #728 |
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People need to stop referring to the potentiality of the other twin being Solid as a "retcon." It isn't a retcon, it's the equivalent of taking a shotgun and blasting a hole into the centre of the future-story's heart. Changing little dates here and there and altering voice actors is fine with Kojima, but even he isn't stupid enough to change the future trajectory of his work because doing so takes a big shit on the past. |
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| Whiskey Grin | Jun 16 2015, 04:58:20 PM Post #729 |
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It doesn't mean it has to be retcon or your "shotgun blast". Why is it so hard to imagine, especially in the world of Metal Gear, that the memories of Solid's childhood could have been altered in some way, replaced, or even lost all together? We know very little about Solid's early days and with the way Kojima's stories unfold, almost anything is possible in this time-frame without being retcon or shotgun blasts to the rest of the story involving Liquid and Solid. |
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| CraigUK | Jun 16 2015, 04:59:24 PM Post #730 |
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Seems like some people want it to be snake so much that they are blind to the evidence that its just Eli x2 I dont even think its clone of eli as even that doesnt explain the scars. |
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| Raiden | Jun 16 2015, 05:06:18 PM Post #731 |
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You think the Blonde/Brown hair is a shotgun blast to the story? Are you for real? |
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| abstract-one | Jun 16 2015, 05:06:26 PM Post #732 |
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I look at it as Kojima wanting to imply Solid Snake will be in the game, without actually revealing what he looks like. Edited by abstract-one, Jun 16 2015, 05:07:51 PM.
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| Old Liquid | Jun 16 2015, 05:08:11 PM Post #733 |
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What the hell is Eli x2? It`s cleary a kid identical to Eli and with the voice over of Big Boss saying Les Infants Terible its pretty clear it`s Solid. |
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| abstract-one | Jun 16 2015, 05:11:16 PM Post #734 |
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Well as it has already been mentioned a hundred times, clones don't have the same scars. KieferSnake's quote is only implying both clones will be in the game, or we will at least hear more about Les Enfants Terrible. It isn't saying "and now you are looking at both of the twins on screen". There is no good explanation for why they would have the same exact scars. Although its a less important point, there isn't much reason for them to even be dressing the same. I don't think it will turn out they are best bros and like each other enough to want to dress alike. Edited by abstract-one, Jun 16 2015, 05:12:50 PM.
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| Kooms | Jun 16 2015, 05:16:06 PM Post #735 |
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It's pretty clear Kojima wanted us to have this kind of argument : Solid or Elix2. I'm with abstract one on that one. Maybe this is not Solid. Maybe it's Elix2 for some reason. But now it's hard to think we won't see solid in this game. Edit : which does not mean they will meet, who know. Edited by Kooms, Jun 16 2015, 05:17:37 PM.
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| Whiskey Grin | Jun 16 2015, 05:24:49 PM Post #736 |
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Eli x2? What? Why? I'll admit that I cannot explain the matching scar, kinda weird. The suggestion from earlier that Eli/Liquid may have been told about his twin and perhaps he was just picturing it is plausible. I suppose. Maybe that's just from all the talk of BB hallucinating some of the scenes with SkullFace that have opened me up to the idea. As far as the blonde hair on Solid when he was a kid.... really? That's why it cant be Solid?!? Hair color means absolutely nothing. Sorry, but I can't just take that as a serious argument. My brother had blonde hair as a child and now it's as brown as ever, not to mention how easy it is to change ones hair-color at anytime. |
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| SnakeVenom | Jun 16 2015, 05:43:49 PM Post #737 |
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Solid snake stated that he had to dye his hair in mgs1. He's a natural blonde, as you can see in the mgs1 briefings... Long blonde hair. As for the scars, I've heard stories of twins being separated and feeling the other's pain and stuff. Dunno if I heard that in school or I want to say Drebin informed Snake on that via codec in mgs4 |
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| Pinochet89 | Jun 16 2015, 05:52:31 PM Post #738 |
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I'm wondering how they said you can play the whole game without even meeting Quiet but she's pretty much everywhere in the trailers and stuff and she seems like a pretty integral part of the story. I just can't understand this...
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| Devil Boss | Jun 16 2015, 05:55:27 PM Post #739 |
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I think that scene is actually Eli thinking about his twin brother, his eternal rival, the one shadow he will have to beat to prove himself better. And since he knows they're cloned twins, he pictures his brother exactly like him because that's the only model his mind has available at the time. |
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| big_boss1988 | Jun 16 2015, 06:00:49 PM Post #740 |
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