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| The Departed | Jun 17 2015, 03:54:05 AM Post #841 |
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kazuhira no, there aren't. all those quotes everyone mentioned were james horan. and everyone else on the solid snake theory, cool your jets. first and foremost, solid snake almost certainly will be in the game, and the twin images of eli were probably meant to foreshadow that, but no, that probably wasn't snake. if you pay extra close attention, eli one is awake and conscious for a moment, then he closes his eyes, and as the camera pans to eli 2, he opens his eyes, like some kind of out of body mind trip or something. clones don't share identical scars unless they're all secretly clayface. people are denying that the two eli's are solid and liquid. literally no one is denying snake is in the game, so everyone please cool your jets, and once again, please reframe from 2 word posts or getting too heated. thank you. |
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| ADAMska87 | Jun 17 2015, 04:04:43 AM Post #842 |
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Both Eli and David were in fact born naturally. With an egg and a woman's body, giving birth to them little freaks. I think solid will be in TTP but u guys are just being really hopeful. Let's be honest with ourselves here... You just really want it to be him so you refuse to hear what people have to say. Kinda like I refuse to believe Ocelot meows/claws in MGS3 Edited by ADAMska87, Jun 17 2015, 04:06:57 AM.
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| The Gentleman Phantom | Jun 17 2015, 04:12:01 AM Post #843 |
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I personally don't care if it's him. It just makes sense that it's him. They are twins, I don't see why people are so passionately against it when everything pretty much points to the twins at the end being Solid & Liquid opposed to it NOT being them. But the scars talk is just all kinds of wrong lol. |
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| KoRnFlakes | Jun 17 2015, 04:43:43 AM Post #844 |
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Yes saying that both Solid and Liquid would have the same scars "Cuz twinz lol" is an assumption, both of them having some scars is believable, but both of them having the exact same scars and in the exact same places? That's absolutely ridiculous. Saying "They have those scars because Big Boss had scars and they're Big Boss clones." is an assumption, for one thing, before TPP, Big Boss didn't have facial scars, him having facial scars right now is irrelevant because he was cloned before he got facial scars, only way they'd "Inherit" his scars is if they just magically appeared on them at the same time Big Boss got them, and that's ridiculous. Saying "They could've been brainwashed/mind wiped to forget." is an assumption, sure previous games had brainwashing, but saying it's happening here isn't much more than straw grasping for a reason to say that it is Liquid and Solid as if it were absolute 100% fact. Is it really such a hard concept for you to grasp that they might not be Liquid and Solid and there's really just one Liquid and the other is him imagining what his clone twin would look like? Sure makes a lot more sense than both of them wearing the exact same outfit and having the exact same facial scars. Three sound files in Ground Zeroes? The ones that sound distorted? The ones from the Jaimes Vu mission? Yeah...hate to burst your bubble but it was proven months ago that those were Sutherland's voice as Raiden for that mission, not Hayter's. You hearing Hayter is a figment of your imagination, just like everyone who hears Hayter when James Horan is speaking in this new trailer is in their heads. Don't know what they call it where you're from, but where I"m from, going on a tirade spouting "Lol you hate Hayter, you got a grudge against him huh!?" if someone points out that something someone else thought was wrong is called losing your shit. Sure maybe I wasn't exactly polite about it, but I have no reason to with how absolutely sick I am of all the "DAVID HAYTER REALLY IS IN THE GAME EVEN THOUGH IT'S OVERWHELMING HOW MUCH SAYS HE'S NOT!" crap. Same way I'm sick of all the "Quiet=Gender bending Chico." crap that I'll just say how stupid it is instead of trying to reason with the lunatics who keep pressing it. So you admit that you saying that I hate Hayter and have a grudge against him is an assumption of yours that's based on nothing? OK then. Here's something, I don't think Peace Walker is that good of a game. You going to say I hate it just because of that? |
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| Acid Boss | Jun 17 2015, 06:15:43 AM Post #845 |
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You have a very construed mind if you automatically jumped to the conclusion "It's Eli imagining himself because he just can't get enough of himself he needs moar Eli".. I'm sorry. No. When clearly, once again, Big Boss is 'referring' to the twins. I'm leaning on,... the twins. and once again, it's not far fetched at all that brainwashing/memory loss is a huge part of MGS, so I'm reaching at fucking straws? That's not Sutherland, and please point me in the direction of your 'proven' fact on this. Sure, no one has directly come out and said that was David Hayter either, but I'm not deaf. It's the most tangible thread in the whole debacle. You'd think a Metal Gear fan would be encouraging instead of running a rampage campaign against it, but hey, that's none of my business. Also, please take your time in going through my history of my posts where I blatantly attack you as you so eloquently put it with "LAWL YOU HATE HAYTER..." and such. I never once attacked you, I've tried asking you many times what your reasoning for the sheer lack of any fucks given about David Hayter, and quite frankly, your replies are either none existent or atrocious and demeaning. You may not see it, but you're not the most friendly around here and you're degrading in your replies to posts. I'm happy to continue this discussion in PM, but I'm done with all of this here. |
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| Crimson Rex | Jun 17 2015, 06:31:41 AM Post #846 |
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Call me crazy but tying to figure out how a naked hot clone was created in such a short time sounds a lot better than people trying to prove that clones can inherit nonexistent scars.
Just because it's plausible doesn't mean it should exist. Edited by Crimson Rex, Jun 17 2015, 06:38:13 AM.
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| vlad06 | Jun 17 2015, 08:45:10 AM Post #847 |
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This is the gayest debate ever. Can we start a new thread with a poll to just see who on here wants a young Solid to know a young Liquid? I want all people who want that to mail me copies of their MGS1 game so I can confiscate them. |
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| Crystal_Liv | Jun 17 2015, 11:20:26 AM Post #848 |
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I found it quite surprising that some people are not letting the whole “Liquid/ Solid” topic go. It is so obvious it’s just a troll pulled by Kojima. I know people like to believe what they want to believe, but isn’t it too obvious to not to look at the simple facts that there is no way that could be Solid Snake? It’s 2 Eli together, two of them have the 100% same resemblance, twins are not like that, it might happened to other games (being lazy to not build a new model so just use the same facial model), even if there is going to be Solid Snake in this game, Kojima will NEVER EVER use the same facial and body model as Eli's, Kojima Productions just won’t make such mistakes, because it’s common knowledge that twins are not copies with 100% likeness on details (and please... statements like "they are twins so they must have the same scars" are just nonsense). I actually don’t even think 2 of them are virtually being real at the same time. It’s a trippy scene, Eli looks half awake as if he was in a hypnosis condition, it could be a dream, or some kind of metaphor. Kojima is a smart guy, he knows fans are longing for Solid Snake, it’s just a classic trailer tease, a fog screen. Yes I know Big Boss was saying “Les Enfants Terribles” at the background, but it just a voice over, it actually doesn't mean anything, a clone like Eli alone could represent the project already. The project was being strongly hinted, but it just doesn’t mean that kid with Eli is Solid, it’s just a “reflection” of his own. And can we move on with this topic? There are so much more interesting topics to talk about, such as what is going on with Kaz’s eyes (I’m also sure he ain’t blind) or Is that blonde girl really Paz, etc. Edited by Crystal_Liv, Jun 17 2015, 11:49:22 AM.
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| AbudJasemAlBaldawi | Jun 17 2015, 11:46:05 AM Post #849 |
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Someone who makes sense and ain't being pissy about it? MADNESS!!! But yeah, can we please move on to Paz 2.0, that was way more baffling. |
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| big_boss1988 | Jun 17 2015, 11:47:43 AM Post #850 |
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Either this is not Paz or GZ didn't end the same way we saw it ending. |
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| CIA | Jun 17 2015, 11:47:53 AM Post #851 |
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| Crystal_Liv | Jun 17 2015, 11:58:42 AM Post #852 |
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Actually I don't really think that's Paz, it could be her clone or something. First of all she looks pretty young, about the same age as Paz when she died in GZ. But she doesn't look entirely like Paz from GZ, and Paz would be in her early 30s if she did survived from GZ, and this blonde looks like a teenager. 2nd, during the scene she getting examined by someone that showing she just woke up from a coma or something, could be some medical surgery, clone? experimental procedure? ummm... |
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| Tricerius | Jun 17 2015, 12:13:38 PM Post #853 |
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If she's a clone, I wouldn't understand why she has the V-shaped stitches. Other than being sent by Zero/Skullface as a message. Perhaps cryopreservation? Even if it's too high tech for such era, we've already kinda seen that MGS doesn't mind anachronism. Also, why is her abdomen still bloody? Perhaps she underwent surgery to replace the lost organs in GZ (In case she's the real Paz and not a clone)? Or They just made sure that the clone Paz wasn't rigged like the original one? Edited by Tricerius, Jun 17 2015, 12:14:18 PM.
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| Rogue Agent | Jun 17 2015, 12:34:58 PM Post #854 |
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The only theory I have is that GZ as we saw it was wrong, and in this game, we'll play out the real events of GZ where Paz will survive. But even that doesn't make sense. Isn't Ocelot and Big Boss looking at her? |
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| Jim Houseman | Jun 17 2015, 12:37:14 PM Post #855 |
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The female cyborg things all look like they share the same face which might have something to do with it. Why was L.E.T abandoned, usurped by another technology?It's hard to say but she's on a medical table there so she's probably going to be/has been opened up again :/ Edited by Jim Houseman, Jun 17 2015, 12:42:18 PM.
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| Rogue Agent | Jun 17 2015, 12:40:11 PM Post #856 |
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Perhaps Ocelot can take part in the procedure this time around.
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| BIGBEN | Jun 17 2015, 01:02:04 PM Post #857 |
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Here's the full uncut 17min original track "Elegia" by New Order (1985) Edited by BIGBEN, Jun 17 2015, 01:03:33 PM.
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| Night Fright | Jun 17 2015, 01:04:35 PM Post #858 |
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the track's name is Elegia,and "New Order" is the name of band that performed it |
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| AbudJasemAlBaldawi | Jun 17 2015, 02:05:19 PM Post #859 |
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Wow, surprised no one thought of cryopreservation. If she didn't die at the end of GZ, that would explain why she looks completely unchanged, right down to the same blood spills. Question is why she was preserved. Keep her alive until they can get organs to transplant back into her (remember she had quite a few organs removed)? Not to mention she still has info on Zero, though I wonder how useful that would be 9 years later, not to mention she looks pretty lost, like an amnesiac. Edited by AbudJasemAlBaldawi, Jun 17 2015, 02:07:55 PM.
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| Kitty Hamilton | Jun 17 2015, 02:12:46 PM Post #860 |
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We don't know that the v-shaped wound we saw in the trailer actually belongs to Paz. It could be someone else Skull Face did the same thing to. |
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