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New trailer at E3 2015 confirmed.
Topic Started: Jun 10 2015, 04:25:26 PM (50,521 Views)
AbudJasemAlBaldawi
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The scars are at the exact same spot with the same blood spills, so unless SF prints the same blood texture onto every victim its definitely Paz.
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AbudJasemAlBaldawi
Jun 17 2015, 02:19:25 PM
The scars are at the exact same spot with the same blood spills, so unless SF prints the same blood texture onto every victim its definitely Paz.
I actually think it's more plausible that they'd just reuse an asset than Paz not only surviving, but maintaining her blood stains in the exact same position over the course of nine years after apparently exploding and falling into the ocean. Surely any blood would have long since dried out, or been cleaned off.
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There were two different scenes, one of the stomach with the scars and one of Paz's face. Doesn't necessarily mean they're the same person, not that I'm sure why I'm indulging this.
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Jun 17 2015, 03:39:49 PM
There were two different scenes, one of the stomach with the scars and one of Paz's face. Doesn't necessarily mean they're the same person, not that I'm sure why I'm indulging this.
Wasn't there a scene of a soldier being rushed somewhere on a stretcher? Could be them.

EDIT: On the other hand, Paz appears to be alive, cloned or otherwise, so who the hell knows?
Edited by Kitty Hamilton, Jun 17 2015, 03:57:43 PM.
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If they can get grey fox to look like big boss then they can get chico to look like paz ;)
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If Gray Fox can be brought back to life from exploding into 50 cans worth of of corn beef and Big Boss can be put back together one body piece at a time via Tetris skillz..... don't really find Paz coming back to life in this universe all that implausible tbh

But anyway having said that, I'm convinced this Paz is not the original Paz. Probably a clone of a cloning project pre-LET or something. But meh, who knows really \_(:/)_/
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i think the real question is, why the hell would they clone paz and her annoying, "i hart peace but not really, u guis" bullshit. it's possible those two scenes aren't connected to one another, but the stomach scars definitely look like paz's, which would be impossible considering the bomb would have to at least be as powerful as the cobra microbombs, meaning she'd literally be incinerated by her second body bomb,

all i know is, skull face exists and we're still getting a boss fight with him. \_(:/)_/

and somewhere out there, bladewolf is rolling in his proverbial grave of hot pockets and shame.
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Fuck if I have any idea why lol. Only thing I can think of is Paz is an exceptional spy/ agent (pre-wavering-phase lol). Could be possible that all that training, loyalty and discipline was instead mass produced on an assembly line rather than an obstacle course.

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Maybe we're looking at Atlantica Ocean :roy:
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Chico turns himself into Paz...It's obvious :roy:
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Maybe the DD's scientists perfected the Boss AI from PW (which is why they brought it in during that trailer), and was able to implement that AI in a newly constructed Paz...they left the scars and blood to "recreate" the experience for the AI so she still sides with Big Boss and the gang...the reason they do all this is because of the main reason of Ground Zeroes..she's the only one with information on Zero, so they hope this replica can produce that same information. The reason she looks the way she does/responds to the hand signal so late is cause she's obviously not a real human being (an AI/android)..

Reach? Idk. But oh well

Edit: That could also be why they brought in Huey other than interrogation about GZ of course
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I'm not saying this is relevant or anything, but I never felt that GZ Paz actually looked like Paz.I figured it was a 'stylised, almost anime' artwork to 'photorealistic human' conversion issue, but the 'Paz' in the trailer looks much more like Paz did in PW.

Perhaps they kept Paz safe because she's a valuable asset for someone trying to take down Cipher, got a girl who looked just enough like here, beat the shit out of her face, shaved her head, and stuck some bombs in her. Obviously that deception wouldn't have lasted long term, but that was never the plan.

Surgical scars and stuff could be attributed to SF or whoever just fucking with BB.

This isn't a theory or anything, just supposition.

Realistically, if we're talking hallucinations and stuff in this game, then that's probably the best bet. Especially if, like 'flaming man', Psycho Mantis is being used to bring thoughts and memories from deep within BBs mind into the fore to fuck with him.
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it appeared that we will get more than 1 Gear in TPP
here's come PW-like grinding again....

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with these levels of gameplay, i say bring on the grind
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Jun 17 2015, 06:12:32 PM
it appeared that we will get more than 1 Gear in TPP
here's come PW-like grinding again....

(picture was stretching the page)
not necessarily.

we already know we can steal a shit ton of resources, which was something we couldn't do in pw. in pw, the only way to grind for our mel gear was to fight those stale boss fights again and again. whereas with mgsv, we can explore and steal giant crates of shit now instead of doing the same exact shit over and over.

that variation of options to earn materials is what keeps things from becoming a grindfest.
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Jun 17 2015, 06:17:51 PM
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Jun 17 2015, 06:12:32 PM
it appeared that we will get more than 1 Gear in TPP
here's come PW-like grinding again....

(picture was stretching the page)
not necessarily.

we already know we can steal a shit ton of resources, which was something we couldn't do in pw. in pw, the only way to grind for our mel gear was to fight those stale boss fights again and again. whereas with mgsv, we can explore and steal giant crates of shit now instead of doing the same exact shit over and over.

that variation of options to earn materials is what keeps things from becoming a grindfest.
i dont think we can fulton a big Gear like the one in the pic i posted but...who know? :D
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Jun 17 2015, 06:20:46 PM
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Jun 17 2015, 06:17:51 PM
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Jun 17 2015, 06:12:32 PM
it appeared that we will get more than 1 Gear in TPP
here's come PW-like grinding again....

(picture was stretching the page)
not necessarily.

we already know we can steal a shit ton of resources, which was something we couldn't do in pw. in pw, the only way to grind for our mel gear was to fight those stale boss fights again and again. whereas with mgsv, we can explore and steal giant crates of shit now instead of doing the same exact shit over and over.

that variation of options to earn materials is what keeps things from becoming a grindfest.
i dont think we can fulton a big Gear like the one in the pic i posted but...who know? :D
if we can fulton bears, we can fulton goddamn anything.

in fact, fuck human soldiers, my motherbase shall consist of nothing but bears and jihadist goats. let's see motherfuckers try and raid my shit now!

also, what i meant was crates. we know we can fulton crates for raw materials, and we used raw materials to upgrade our metal gears, so that ability to find it all over the place in different forms is what keeps it from being a grind where we would other fight the same enemy over and over to get shit, like we did in pw.
Edited by The Departed, Jun 17 2015, 06:25:50 PM.
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Jun 17 2015, 05:26:54 PM
Maybe we're looking at Atlantica Ocean :roy:
Duh, why didn't we see this coming? Everyone else has a flip-side version of themselves!

I'm of the camp believing, via a shoot-from-the-hip guess, that Ground Zeroes didn't go quite like we were lead to think. Granted, it could go any NUMBER of ways (just like the Eli x 2 or Eli and David thing... Jesus, you guys) that we just won't know until we play the game. I have nooooothing against theorizing, but believing we can figure EVERY little thing out from trailers is wrong, and leading to hissy-fit arguments. Some things you CAN'T know until you're shown them in context, and even then you may need extra clarification or explanation.

Sniping at each other like catty little girls is pointless, especially when we've all taken in the same information. The whole thing could go any which way anybody imagines, depending upon how Kojima decides to tie things. Y'know, with the exception of the far-out space-brained theories.

But Chico is most assuredly Quiet.
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I really like that gear over the rex rip off. Really reminds me of Metal Gear Tx-55
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Jun 17 2015, 04:24:52 PM
i think the real question is, why the hell would they clone paz and her annoying, "i hart peace but not really, u guis"
Felt a lot better than the whole falling for Big Boss and Chico routines. But yeah, I agree, of all people to clone, why Pacfica? Should of just cloned Gene for some super human projects and stuff.
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