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Big Boss will turn 'you know what' at some point in MGS5 right?
Topic Started: Jun 22 2015, 02:59:35 AM (2,457 Views)
IomMeza
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I'm not really that knowledgeable about MGS lore, I've only played MGS4.

I searched up on wikia to learn about MGS lore, it took me a couple of hours to learn some of MGS's history and characters. It is quite a one of the very complicated stuff I ever read on a game :3

Anyway I'm not sure if this count as a spoiler for the MGS Phantom Pain plot but I'll put my question in spoiler just in case.

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Jun 22 2015, 03:07:48 AM
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Thanks!

I meant MG 1 Outer Heaven Uprising, not MGS3 oops sry
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Jun 22 2015, 03:07:48 AM
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Jun 22 2015, 02:43:53 PM
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Jun 22 2015, 03:07:48 AM
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Can you provide a source? I never saw any confirmation of anything like that.

Not saying you're wrong; I just want to read it for myself.
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Jun 22 2015, 03:01:23 PM
Can you provide a source? I never saw any confirmation of anything like that.

Not saying you're wrong; I just want to read it for myself.
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Jun 22 2015, 03:17:35 PM
Webbie
Jun 22 2015, 03:01:23 PM
Can you provide a source? I never saw any confirmation of anything like that.

Not saying you're wrong; I just want to read it for myself.
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Wow. Thanks for that.

Lots of great info here, including:

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This is my first time seeing that.
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Jun 22 2015, 03:50:43 PM
I have two questions

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Jun 22 2015, 04:09:03 PM
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Jun 22 2015, 03:50:43 PM
I have another question

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He's not really evil per se. He has a fair few child soldiers, but he also saves his enemies from the Resistance at the end of Metal Gear and has earnt the respect and love of hundreds of soldiers from all over the world.
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Jun 22 2015, 04:09:03 PM
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Jun 22 2015, 03:50:43 PM
I have another question

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There are much more knowledgeable MGS enthusiasts here than myself, so I'm definitely not the best one to be answering these questions, but simply put, Big Boss is the ending boss that you fight in both MG and MG2. He's in control of Metal Gear which has the ability to launch nuclear weapons, he's the leader of a terrorist unit, and yeah... he's just a bad ass dude.

Wikipedia can probably explain all this stuff to you better than I can. My knowledge on the original Metal Gear is limited.

As for your last question, yes, I believe that's right.
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Thanks, sry for bothering you if I did :D
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You haven't bothered me at all, mang.

This conversation is just making me realize that I really need to go back and refresh my memory on a lot of this stuff. I used to be able to explain elements of the story without needing to look information up. Now I just don't remember any of it, lol.
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It tells you on the 40 minute demo if you look closely. The new mother base is located in the Seychelles waters which is off the coast of africa.
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BEHOLD THE FIELD IN WHICH I GROW MY FUCKS TO GIVE.
LAY THINE EYES UPON IT AND SEE THAT IT IS BARREN
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Still we carry you.

Big Boss started wars to orphan child, he then took those child, trained them up and put them back into the battlefield. That's pretty fucked up.

And no, Solid and Liquid had already been born by the time his coma.
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Yup, I missed that in the trailer. Thanks.

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Big Boss started wars to orphan child, he then took those child, trained them up and put them back into the battlefield. That's pretty fucked up.

And no, Solid and Liquid had already been born by the time his coma.

This is the guy I was hoping would come in and correct all of the misinformation I've given you.

Kept me waiting, huh?
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Jun 22 2015, 04:14:03 PM
IomMeza
Jun 22 2015, 04:09:03 PM
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Jun 22 2015, 03:50:43 PM
I have another question

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He's not really evil per se. He has a fair few child soldiers, but he also saves his enemies from the Resistance at the end of Metal Gear and has earnt the respect and love of hundreds of soldiers from all over the world.
Taken from the Metal Gear Wiki:


Ellen Madnar was kidnapped by the mercenary force of Outer Heaven while she and her father attempted to seek asylum in the United States. She was then held hostage in order to coerce her father into developing the TX-55 Metal Gear.


Big Boss kidnapped Dr. Drago Pettrovich Madnar's daughter, Ellen, and used threats against her, and possibly torture, to coerce Dr. Madnar into developing TX-55.

I guess to ask if Big Boss was evil is to ask this question: Do the ends justify the means?

During the War in Iraq and War on Terror, the United States captured and tortured suspected terrorists. This was justified by the United States because it may have potentially led to crucial intelligence.

So, do the ends justify the means? Is anything acceptable to attain your ultimate goal?
Edited by OMG_Its_Grayfox, Jun 23 2015, 03:08:20 AM.
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Still we carry you.

The ends are worst than the means.
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Noob question:

Why is Big Boss wearing FOX patch on his sneaky suit in Ground Zeroes? Isn't it suppose to be MSF logo and I thought he left FOX after Snake Eater before the events of GZ?
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