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Big Boss no longer speaks russian?
Topic Started: Jun 30 2015, 02:28:52 PM (2,111 Views)
Screaming Crab
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Hallo,

I'm new here so forgive me if this is in the wrong place.

I am so confused. In MGS3: Snake Eater, Big Boss could speak and understand Russian yet in the latest E3 gameplay footage, Big Boss has trouble understanding the Russian soldier he had taken hostage (which is why he needed to extract a Russian linguist).

WHAAA?

Edit: And what is GMP? (I seem to have $4). What can I do with it?

Thank you.
Edited by Screaming Crab, Jun 30 2015, 02:30:07 PM.
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Look up what massive brain trauma does to a human and you'll understand. Big Boss has been stated to have forgotten many things including some of his past and memory
BEFORE THY BECOMES SALTY WITH THE TEARS OF BEING OFFENDED.
BEHOLD THE FIELD IN WHICH I GROW MY FUCKS TO GIVE.
LAY THINE EYES UPON IT AND SEE THAT IT IS BARREN
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Oh I see, danke!
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Edited by Old Liquid, Jun 30 2015, 03:37:59 PM.
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"Mankind will come together, reunited between these fluffy buns."
It could be story related or it could be one of those "little retcons" Kojima talked about.

(better this than a major plot point)
Edited by Kelesis, Jun 30 2015, 04:19:33 PM.
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dragonknight
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Jun 30 2015, 04:19:01 PM
It could be story related or it could be one of those "little retcons" Kojima talked about.
its not a retcon

kojima mentioned a while back about big boss loosing the ability to speak russian becuase of his head injury

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What about Ocelot?
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Ezomo
Jun 30 2015, 05:07:04 PM
What about Ocelot?
He's a lazy dick
BEFORE THY BECOMES SALTY WITH THE TEARS OF BEING OFFENDED.
BEHOLD THE FIELD IN WHICH I GROW MY FUCKS TO GIVE.
LAY THINE EYES UPON IT AND SEE THAT IT IS BARREN
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Jun 30 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Ezomo
Jun 30 2015, 05:07:04 PM
What about Ocelot?
He's a lazy dick
He is busy with mother base and intel.
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Jun 30 2015, 05:24:31 PM
scottish_nutjob
Jun 30 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Ezomo
Jun 30 2015, 05:07:04 PM
What about Ocelot?
He's a lazy dick
He is busy with mother base and intel.
What's Miller doing?
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SlasherHawk
Jun 30 2015, 05:40:59 PM
Demon
Jun 30 2015, 05:24:31 PM
scottish_nutjob
Jun 30 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Ezomo
Jun 30 2015, 05:07:04 PM
What about Ocelot?
He's a lazy dick
He is busy with mother base and intel.
What's Miller doing?
Having wheelchair ramps installed.

What does that matter?
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Jun 30 2015, 05:56:31 PM
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Jun 30 2015, 05:40:59 PM
Demon
Jun 30 2015, 05:24:31 PM
scottish_nutjob
Jun 30 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Ezomo
Jun 30 2015, 05:07:04 PM
What about Ocelot?
He's a lazy dick
He is busy with mother base and intel.
What's Miller doing?
Having wheelchair ramps installed.

What does that matter?
You'd think he'd be the one taking care of motherbase etc. It was his job in previous games no?



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Jun 30 2015, 06:09:15 PM
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Jun 30 2015, 05:56:31 PM
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Jun 30 2015, 05:40:59 PM
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Jun 30 2015, 05:24:31 PM
scottish_nutjob
Jun 30 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Ezomo
Jun 30 2015, 05:07:04 PM
What about Ocelot?
He's a lazy dick
He is busy with mother base and intel.
What's Miller doing?
Having wheelchair ramps installed.

What does that matter?
You'd think he'd be the one taking care of motherbase etc. It was his job in previous games no?



Ocelot is in charge of intel and Miller is in charge of base development.

On topic, it's really a matter of placing gameplay ahead of story cohesion. While it's a little awkward that Snake forgets a language that he used to speak fluently, it makes for a very intuitive gameplay mechanic.
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Ef9 o shea
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Hadoken

He could speak french in pw too and spanish so he has lost his fluency in many languages due to the head trauma
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Jun 30 2015, 07:10:42 PM
He could speak french in pw too and spanish so he has lost his fluency in many languages due to the head trauma
Would have been possible for him to come out of the coma understanding only spanish?

Onde estou?
Edited by SlasherHawk, Jun 30 2015, 09:43:53 PM.
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Grab that cane, pop that vicoden and tell them bitches it's not lupus!
He doesn't speak it anymore because of brain trauma, being in a nine year coma and just not speaking it, anyone who knows a foreign language can tell you that if you don't actually use it frequently, you're going to forget it after a while.

Ocelot doesn't translate for you because speaking a language and translating/interpreting are two entirely different skills, you could be fluent in a language but you wouldn't be able to interpret for someone on the spot.

Miller doesn't translate for you because, as far as any of us know, he doesn't speak Russian or any other language outside of English and Japanese.
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Jun 30 2015, 10:03:08 PM
He doesn't speak it anymore because of brain trauma, being in a nine year coma and just not speaking it, anyone who knows a foreign language can tell you that if you don't actually use it frequently, you're going to forget it after a while.

Ocelot doesn't translate for you because speaking a language and translating/interpreting are two entirely different skills, you could be fluent in a language but you wouldn't be able to interpret for someone on the spot.

Miller doesn't translate for you because, as far as any of us know, he doesn't speak Russian or any other language outside of English and Japanese.
I don't know about the first paragraph, maybe if you didn't get to a level of fluency. I won't ever forget the Portuguese I know, But then again I haven't been in a helicopter crash(just a car crash).

And interpreting is only difficult if you aren't fluent in one of the languages.

Edited by SlasherHawk, Jun 30 2015, 10:12:32 PM.
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Ocelot has better things to do than to sit and wait for Big Boss to interrogate guards one at a time. How long in Big Boss's deployments is he out and about? Is Ocelot supposed to put soldier training, Huey torturing, dog raising, sheep taming, and gun twirling aside just in case Big Boss decides to have a guard tell him where he stores his Hall and Oates cassettes?
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Still we carry you.

It's an academic gameplay mechanic. I bet you by the end he can speak Russian again :)
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