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Ocelot
Topic Started: Sep 25 2015, 10:15:27 AM (2,005 Views)
Ludens
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I agree with Ocelot being more fun when on enemy's side, but I loved him as a support character. he is just a different version of Ocelot and his voice acting is superb. he is the one who holds DD together really, not Venom or Kaz. and V, your signature is BEAUTIFUL :wub:
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But he has hardly any emotion through the game and you never see him in action. Anyone could've replaced him in this game, a dude just giving u Intel. Its a complete waste of one of mgs's best characters.
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Ocelot didn't have any emotion in older games too as he's an interrogator. his facial expressions and acting were top notch too. not to mention his choice of clothing (except those ugly glasses). I wish we heard and saw more of him though
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I don't think Wolf was talking about Ocelot not expressing a particular emotion, rather him not reacting much to anything. A neutral character with barely any involvement in the story.
Edited by Silent Assassin, Sep 26 2015, 03:40:53 PM.
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Wat. He was batshit insane over the top villain in 1/2/4 and even 3 he was a very intriguing character, never knowing which side he was on or what he would do next.

This game he's a monotone encyclopedia and spends 99% of the game in one area! There's literally no relation with this ocelot the other ones, its a completely different (and dull) character. Am I crazy? This characters a joke in this game I don't care who voiced him.
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As I said his role is different this time. he is managing things at mother base. what are you expecting him to do this time? bust a cap in DD soldiers in a second or rape quiet? but I feel you all. lot and lots of scenes and lines were cut from the game which could have helped the characters develop more. it's not about snake only but every character has few lines even in cassette tapes compared to PW. James Horan said they recorded about 2 hours of his dialogue but what I heard from Skullface (including his tapes) does not even reach 20 mins.
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I understand he has a different role. But you know what, that role sucks. He's too big a part of mgs to just be feeding you info on animals and soldiers. It'd be like a batman movie where the joker just stands around the whole time raising pets and giving you information, never engaging in any conflict.

It's so ridiculously out of character and a complete 180 from the ocelot in mgs 1. And how the hell did his voice go from this to Zimmerman's? Was it the vocal cord parasites? The nanomachines? Was it anothrr body double? Makes no sense, thanks kojima.
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Did you even finish the game guys?
If so did you understand his actual role in MGS V after you finished it?
Come on I thought MGS fans were smart..
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Wrong thread, sorry.
Edited by Silent Assassin, Sep 26 2015, 05:24:52 PM.
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Lol @ complaining about voice actor changes. Because there TOTALLY needs to be an in game reason for why a VA gets changed!
wtf dude.

Ocelot is not double triple quadruple crossing in this game or some bullshit, he's just being himself around Big Boss, and that's awesome to see. Did I want more from the torture angle? yes I did, but the idea of him being straightforward for once is great and fits his admiration/love/whatever for Big Boss.

And The Joker comparison makes no sense.
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soon realized that Mr. Kojima was serious.

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Sep 26 2015, 05:21:32 PM
Did you even finish the game guys?
If so did you understand his actual role in MGS V after you finished it?
Come on I thought MGS fans were smart..
Oh because an 5 minute mp3 file makes up for the fact he's boring as a rock the entire game. Sorry.
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Sep 26 2015, 05:24:18 PM
Lol @ complaining about voice actor changes. Because there TOTALLY needs to be an in game reason for why a VA gets changed!
wtf dude.

Ocelot is not double triple quadruple crossing in this game or some bullshit, he's just being himself around Big Boss, and that's awesome to see. Did I want more from the torture angle? yes I did, but the idea of him being straightforward for once is great and fits his admiration/love/whatever for Big Boss.

And The Joker comparison makes no sense.
Oh. So this is the "real" ocelot after 3 games of him being the complete opposite? Gosh you're right. Forgot he was a fucking librarian all this time.

And yeah having a completely different voice means nothing. Guess if he was black in this game that wouldn't need an explanation either.
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I like him in this game although I agree, he needs some badass cut scenes. He's the only character consistent in the series. He's seen it all from the beginning. I just started with TPP after just beating 3,4,PW, and GZ so I'm hoping for some nice action sequences. Seeing as I've done 6 or so missions and I'm only 2% through the game, I'd say there's plenty of time plus time for any DLC
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Trigsby
Sep 25 2015, 01:39:24 PM
He shows off some neat CQC at one point, I don't know where you are in the game so I won't say who it's against.
Completed the game. Can't say I remember that.
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I thought he was kidding, but I
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theDiReW0lf
Sep 26 2015, 07:06:26 PM
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Sep 26 2015, 05:24:18 PM
Lol @ complaining about voice actor changes. Because there TOTALLY needs to be an in game reason for why a VA gets changed!
wtf dude.

Ocelot is not double triple quadruple crossing in this game or some bullshit, he's just being himself around Big Boss, and that's awesome to see. Did I want more from the torture angle? yes I did, but the idea of him being straightforward for once is great and fits his admiration/love/whatever for Big Boss.

And The Joker comparison makes no sense.
Oh. So this is the "real" ocelot after 3 games of him being the complete opposite? Gosh you're right. Forgot he was a fucking librarian all this time.

And yeah having a completely different voice means nothing. Guess if he was black in this game that wouldn't need an explanation either.

He's never genuine in the previous games. In this one he is, because he's working for Big Boss.

Lmao those are SO not the same things. Snake has a different voice but it doesn't need an explanation. Ocelot is the same, what happens in production is independent from the game world.

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Trigsby
Sep 25 2015, 01:39:24 PM
He shows off some neat CQC at one point, I don't know where you are in the game so I won't say who it's against.
Completed the game. Can't say I remember that.
Also never seen this:
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When's it at?

Mother Base fight cutscene.

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Sep 26 2015, 09:34:52 PM
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Sep 25 2015, 01:39:24 PM
He shows off some neat CQC at one point, I don't know where you are in the game so I won't say who it's against.
Completed the game. Can't say I remember that.
Also never seen this:
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When's it at?

Mother Base fight cutscene.

Is it the one shown in trailers when one guy pulls a knife. That is probably triggered when you go into the red on GMP. Right?
I thought he was kidding, but I
soon realized that Mr. Kojima was serious.

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Ludens
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Troy Baker sounds exactly how Ocelot should sound between MGS3 and MGS1. also like someone said here he may have few action scenes but they're all badass on their own. my favorite is:
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Can't help thinking about Joel from The last of us when the infection is coming to mother base and Ocelot starts talking about the "infected" etc. He even has that Texas accent.

I thought he was good in the game, I think he shines in the interrogation scenes with Huey. Potential is very high but like many things in this game it's a shame it doesn't treasure it and follow it through. Some action scenes with Ocelot would have been awesome, would have liked him to be in the field more, the only time he's not in Mother Base is the hospital escape and a few helicopter rides.

And I think he fires a gun in the Huey trial scene to silence all the DD soldiers?
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