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Health & Fitness General Chat & Tips; Discuss General Health & Fitness Here
Topic Started: Dec 31 2015, 02:13:38 AM (3,819 Views)
The Departed
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this is the official general chat & tips thread for those currently bulking up or shedding pounds who would like to share tips and progress, or gym happenings.

for example, fuck anyone who bench presses and in between reps, stops and uses their iphone for 10 minutes straight before resuming. fuck them twice.
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I gotta be honest, i'm one of those people that don't wipe their sweat down after they finish with a machine. It's sweat, everyone sweats in the gym - it's part and parcel of it; it helps that i'm not grossed out by it though.
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Dec 31 2015, 02:13:38 AM
for example, fuck anyone who bench presses and in between reps, stops and uses their iphone for 10 minutes straight before resuming. fuck them twice.
A smartphone/camera is probably the most important accessory that you need for the gym these days.
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Dec 31 2015, 02:18:51 AM
I gotta be honest, i'm one of those people that don't wipe their sweat down after they finish with a machine. It's sweat, everyone sweats in the gym - it's part and parcel of it; it helps that i'm not grossed out by it though.
I'm personally grossed out about it. Which is why I always used to wipe the machines down. True we all sweat, but there's something gross about sitting in another person's sweat.
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I'm going through a "transition" phase right now in regards to my weight. I used to be pretty fit at around 180-190 for a six foot and two inches height, but I gained alot of weight after a few things went wrong in my life. I'm not gonna lie, I got up to about 290-300 pounds. That was out of control and I had to do something about it, my blood pressure and cholesterol was terrible, and I didn't have the energy/flexibility to move around like I did. And it's not like I never worked out, I've always moderately exercised my entire, and I really enjoy it.

Eventually I changed and got back into the gym last year, I lost about 60 pounds in a matter of months by getting on a 5-6 day gym schedule and a carb cycle diet. Changed my eating habits, started eating more protein (a lot of chicken and brown rice), more fruits and vegetables, cut out the pop and fatty foods (except once in awhile, sometimes a cheat meal a week), etc. My body fat was at 25%, then I stopped going to the gym and fell out of my routine again, but I continued to walk and not eat as poorly as before. I gained a few pounds and lost muscle mass, but I've recently started going back to the gym in November and have already regained some muscle tone. I weight 240 still, so I've maintained my weight for a good while, but I need to lose at least another 20-40 pounds to be back in good shape. Another 10 pounds of fat gone and more muscle tone will have me looking alright tho. If I can get under 25% fat, that'd be good, but 15-20% body fat is ideal.

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no no, it most definitely is. i wouldn't be able to manage if i didn't have mine. i'm talking about people who take forever between reps specifically because they're on their phones instead of just taking enough time to catch their breaths before doing the next rep. especially at my gym since there's only four bench presses and they're almost occupied by lines.
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Dec 31 2015, 05:50:35 AM
knyaz

no no, it most definitely is. i wouldn't be able to manage if i didn't have mine. i'm talking about people who take forever between reps specifically because they're on their phones instead of just taking enough time to catch their breaths before doing the next rep. especially at my gym since there's only four bench presses and they're almost occupied by lines.
What's worse than that is when you get a group of friends that hog the machines/benches so you can't even get a chance to switch out with one of them.

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preach!

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do you look to shed pounds before you pack on muscle or is it a bit of both you're looking to run with?
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I'm doing both right now because when I get back down to an ideal weight, I want to be somewhat toned. The serious muscle building won't start until I'm fit again, for now it's just cardio and core strengthening along with basic weight lifting. Trying to get all groups in there.

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If you're doing both you're minimizing the potential of both, considering losing weight and gaining muscle is a calorie game, you should build muscle THEN cut fat, you might find it works a bit better

Dieting atm, usually I'm fairly fit but after finals I didn't work out enough and I got catching up to do



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When it comes to the whole building muscle and losing weight deal, its possible, but only for a limited time. The best time to go on a cut cycle if you're new to lifting and such is when you first begin because no matter what you do you're going to build strength and muscle, beginner gains and all. There is no real concrete period for when they end, but i'v read that they're marked at around six months, and from there you start cutting and bulking.

Weight lifting can absolutely be used to lose weight with minimal cardio. You maintain your muscle mass while shedding pounds and its much more satisfying because cardio can fuck itself up the ass.
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Take it from a skinny guy, you need that fat when you're bulking. Not sure why you'd cut first.

Anyway, over the past few months I lost any semblance of fitness, literally didn't do any physical activity and didn't eat too well either. My asthma even came back lol. So i'm getting a gym membership for next semester. I don't like the gym, I prefer doing bodyweight and dumbell stuff at home and otherwise staying in shape with cycling and sports, but i've been too lazy to do any of that.
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I'm not actually in a cut cycle, I'm in a foundation cycle and I'm not new to strength training in the least bit. Cardio is the most important since my goal is to condition my heart first and foremost. I'm not doing extreme cardio, just getting to 160 BPM for 20 minutes with 10 minute warm up and cool down.

Tessie that's not necessarily true, and once again, I'm not in a cut cycle, simply a foundation phase.
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Because bulking at that stage isn't necessary to build muscle. You're wasting a perfectly good opportunity, the only opportunity really, to get in some gains while burning fat.

Of course if you're super skinny you should just bulk right away.
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Can somebody tell me how many meals a day I should have really when I'm going through workouts and what KIND of meals? I see loads of fucking bullshit online in articles but it doesn't help at all. I currently swim 3/7 days a week, run 3/7 and do morning and afternoon floor exercises, I stopped for like, a month and a bit because of Christmas and I've put on a LOT of weight because of how Christmas is just sitting and eating and nothing else. :P
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Hmm...
What's your weight, age, etc? what are your goals?
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I'll be going from foundation > build > cut, but I'm not in any rush

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Dec 31 2015, 06:37:30 PM
Hmm...
What's your weight, age, etc? what are your goals?
To tone up and get defined muscles, I'm currently 11 and a half stone at 6ft. - 18 years old. ;P.
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Well yeah you can lose weight and gain muscle at the same time, but even if you're on a super low carb ultra high protein and fat diet you're not gonna see the same results as separating the two phases

I'm starting a new workout routine that will be either exclusively power lifts or exercises for the sake of increasing my powerlifting.

Here's what I'm thinking for my routine

Day 1: Push Movements
Cardio: Sationary Bike 20 mins (this will be on every day)
Bench Press 5x5
Shoulder Press/OHP 5x5
Core:(This Is every day with some modifications)
Russian Twist w/medicine ball 2 mins
Leg Lifts 2 mins
Plank 4 mins
Repeat while cycle twice
Incline DB Press 3x10
Tricep Pulldown 3x6-8

Day 2: Pull Motions:
Bent Over Row on an Angle Bar (Close Grip) 5x5
Bent Over Row on Bar Bell (Wide Grip) 5x5
Pull-ups 3xFailure
Core
Upward BB Row 3x8
Preacher Curl 3x12

Day 3: Legs
Straight Leg Deadlift 5x5
Leg Press 5x8 (including calf Press 5x10)
Weighted lunges 3x75m
Core
Quad Extension 3x20
Hamstring Curl 3x20

1-2 Days Rest

Day 4 Powerlift Day

Clean and Jerk 2x8, 3x3
Deadlift 5x5
Shoulder Press 5x5
Kettle bell clean and press 3x10

Repeat the whole cycle again




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Dec 31 2015, 06:49:32 PM
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Dec 31 2015, 06:37:30 PM
Hmm...
What's your weight, age, etc? what are your goals?
To tone up and get defined muscles, I'm currently 11 and a half stone at 6ft. - 18 years old. ;P.

You'll want to go on a caloric surplus. Calculate your maintenance and then add 500-1000 on top.
Now for what exactly should you eat, there are two ways of being about it: just be reasonable. Make sure you're getting it good protein and hitting your caloric goals, but if you want to get more technical about it calculate your macros.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/macronutrients_calculator.htm
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I don't disagree they're more effective when split up, once you hit a certain threshold building muscle and losing fat at once becomes kind of impossible, but that's only when you've been at it a while.
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