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Death Stranding General Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 14 2016, 03:26:51 AM (30,265 Views)
Rogue Agent
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Stars Norman Reedus. It's basically a video announcing the title of the game - there's nothing much yet. No gameplay yet.

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Edited by Rogue Agent, Jun 14 2016, 02:16:52 PM.
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Yup, games will not be segregated on sony's ps4 original and pro platforms.
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Dec 4 2016, 07:42:36 PM
From what I've heard, every game that's released for PS4 pro will also be available on the normal PS4. there won't even be separate versions of games, games that support PS4 Pro will only have some graphical enhancements if played on a Pro system.
Very good to hear. I figured that but wasn't entirely sure. I just don't want to shell out for a PS4 Pro. I don't see a need or any kind of practical improvement with 4K.
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lol, can you imagine kojima trying to get a kickstarter funded and all he had were these trailers?

"i need $80,000,000. here's norman reedus with a baby."
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Dec 4 2016, 11:07:30 PM
lol, can you imagine kojima trying to get a kickstarter funded and all he had were these trailers?

"i need $80,000,000. here's norman reedus with a baby."
quickest 80 mil crowd fund in history.
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the internet is putting both trailers together and implying del toro is a secret baby thief

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dunno how much of this stuff is wild speculation, but the 5 floating guys disappear from norman's trailer around the same time 5 sewer skulls are walking up in the mads trailer.

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the things kojima retweets...
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^though, to be fair, i'm pretty sure that's genuine concept art of death staining.
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Is the first trailer also by Guerrilla?
Edited by FalcoPelle, Dec 5 2016, 10:13:56 PM.
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reedus reacting to the trailer like:
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FalcoPelle
Dec 5 2016, 10:13:30 PM
Is the first trailer also by Guerrilla?
No, first trailer was in a different engine than of Guerilla's DECIMA.
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Personally, I can't get excited for the actual game, until I actually see the game in action. These trailers, well made as they are, feel a bit counter-intuitive as to how video game trailers should normally be. We're supposed to be getting excited over a video game, over gameplay. Yet, Kojima's trailers thus far have only served to showcase two things:

That Death Stranding is going to be very weird, which, anyone who has heard the name Hideo Kojima, or said out loud, "Death Stranding," would have surmised.

And that it will feature big name actors. Actors do not make good stories, and they ESPECIALLY do not make good games. Now, I'm not saying Death Stranding will be bad. Despite my feelings towards much of the Metal Gear Saga, I don't believe Kojima has ever outright made a BAD video game. *MGS4's two and half hours of gameplay was quite fun for its' time!* I am, however, saying that for all the panels, the hype, and the excitement these trailers have brought many viewers and fans, we still know absolutely NOTHING about what kind of GAME Death Stranding will be. And frankly, I wish Kojima would cease being vague and start dishing out details, if he can't yet dish out demos.
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Ludens
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They're both done with the same engine and even share some models, including the crabs, fish and dolphins.

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Well it's a bit early for gameplay isn't it? they've been doing gameplay tests since the first trailer came, but I think it's still too early for them to show polished gameplay tbh. showing a nice trailer like this is surely better than not showing anything until they're ready to show some gameplay. and with TPP, Kojima proved that he's capable of creating games with great gameplay so I don't think it'd be a concern.

DS is said to be similar to Uncharted and The Division in terms of gameplay so it'll most likely be a third person shooter and since Kojima had a history with the stealth genre, there might be stealth elements too. it's also said to have CO-OP and open world elements and the rope and stick mechanic at least sounds interesting. even without any gameplay footage, what we know about the gameplay of this game sounds promising.
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Dec 9 2016, 08:04:02 PM
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They're both done with the same engine and even share some models, including the crabs, fish and dolphins.


Nope. Confirmed by Hideo himself.

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My bad. so they must have used the same 3d capture data to model those assets again in the Decima engine, because they look so damn close in both trailers. the game would look jaw dropping if it's not downgraded by release, man this engine is a beast.
Edited by Ludens, Dec 9 2016, 08:49:47 PM.
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Dec 9 2016, 08:46:52 PM
My bad. so they must have used the same 3d capture data to model those assets again in the Decima engine, because they look so damn close in both trailers.
Second trailer's graphics have a little higher fidelity than the first one. Could be that it runs natively on 4k/ps4pro.
Also face of Mads is almost lifelike. Crazy what graphic engines are able to accomplish these days.
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Ludens - I understand what you mean, but the problem with showing things as early as they are now, is when, as you said, the gameplay isn't even finalized yet. It means we have no way of knowing for certain when this game is coming out, or what it will really be like. And the problem with showing things this early before things are genuinely ready to be showcased, is expectations can end up exceeding the product. Saying it plays like Uncharted or the Division doesn't help paint a distinct picture, certainly not when Kojima makes claims like this game will be a new genre in and of itself.

Like you, MGSV assured me he's capable of creating a truly fantastic gaming experience. However, this is something from the ground up now, without an established gameplay formula that MGSV's foundation was built off of. So his vagueness doesn't assure me just yet that this game will be nearly as distinct as the trailers would have me believe, especially not when compared to games like The Division, which, if I'm honest, is the textbook example of a game that ISN'T distinct in any way, shape or form.
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Ludens
Dec 9 2016, 08:04:02 PM
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They're both done with the same engine and even share some models, including the crabs, fish and dolphins.

Doakes
Well it's a bit early for gameplay isn't it? they've been doing gameplay tests since the first trailer came, but I think it's still too early for them to show polished gameplay tbh. showing a nice trailer like this is surely better than not showing anything until they're ready to show some gameplay. and with TPP, Kojima proved that he's capable of creating games with great gameplay so I don't think it'd be a concern.

DS is said to be similar to Uncharted and The Division in terms of gameplay so it'll most likely be a third person shooter and since Kojima had a history with the stealth genre, there might be stealth elements too. it's also said to have CO-OP and open world elements and the rope and stick mechanic at least sounds interesting. even without any gameplay footage, what we know about the gameplay of this game sounds promising.
I would like the gameplay of DS to be a mix of Witcher 3 open world with stealth and survival elements from MGS
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I get what you're saying, however, I think it's the fans who should be reasonable and keep their expectations in check.

Was searching for the theory and speculation thread but couldn't find it, was it deleted? anyway, you guys remember Pythonselkan's DS analysis video? there were some bullshit theories in that video, but some were really interesting, especially the radio interruption and the umbilical cord thing. I initially thought they were just making it up and taking the advantage of the poor quality but that's not the case. as you may have heard, PT was finally datamined and some interesting audio files were found (including some unused radio messages). this is particularly interesting: https://soundcloud.com/kingfagola/pt-sfxcommon-file0239-umbilical-cord

Here it can be heard clearly, credits to whoever datamined PT and found these lines. the news originally says that the father killed himself with a garden hose after killing his family, but the second time it's heard, it's interrupted. the interrupted version is the one heard in the audio file I linked, and it really suggests that there might be a strong connection between DS and PT since umbilical cords are likely a major element in DS. what do you guys think?
Edited by Ludens, Dec 10 2016, 05:04:47 PM.
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Dec 10 2016, 03:03:22 PM
you guys remember Pythonselkan's DS analysis video?
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I remember during the planning phase, Kojipro was talking about turning their new IP into manga and anime.

I'm torn. Nothing is worse than that trash...

but with mads...

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Pythonselkan are conspiracy theorists with a ridiculous love for gray fox and an even more ridiculous belief of a ruse with Kojima and Konami but they've got this umbilical cord thing right. would be so damn good if Kojima somehow revived Silent Hills with DS. the game would be different from SH no doubt, but the connection is real.

If I remember correctly, they wanted to expand into that territory, not turn their IP to that sort of things. Kojima said there'd be a sequel if DS does well enough and that would be a game I suppose, it'd be a retarded move to turn the game's sequel into anime or manga.
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Regardless of different engines for each trailer, the underlying theme is "connection". All aspects of both trailers are relative in some way.
For example, the "baby" holding. Reedus picks up "baby", holds it close, and Del Toro connects to the "baby" taking it away from Reedus. Reedus then "becomes" the doll with the torso scar and the missing leg. The missing leg is Reedus' right leg in which the handprints appear on. Both are connected and separate "realities".
The obscure and obvious references in both trailers leads speculation into both trailers being "in game" character control transfer and/or parallel storylines. These subtleties can be speculated as the production giving the fans more information about the game, without showing explosions, gunfights, or alpha gameplay. They want you to see that storytelling is literally a part of the gameplay, not a video to just press a button and skip.
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