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Is the term SJW overused?
Topic Started: Sep 20 2017, 10:43:02 PM (1,642 Views)
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Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation. A social justice warrior, or SJW, does not necessarily strongly believe all that they say, or even care about the groups they are fighting on behalf of. They typically repeat points from whoever is the most popular blogger or commenter of the moment, hoping that they will "get SJ points" and become popular in return. They are very sure to adopt stances that are "correct" in their social circle.


Been reading some articles on how PC "masterrace" is a term that PC gamers shouldn't take pride in, as it references Nazis. While that whole "PC masterrace" discussion is best left for another time, it reminded me of something I discussed some time ago.

When did common decency become "too PC" or "SJW"? Now, I dislike the whole 3rd wave feminism bullshit, people claiming there are 825 genders, sovereign citizens, highway lawyers that break the law then record themselves trying to outsmart the police and film it etc.

But why are people getting attacked/labeled as SJW when they show an ounce of just plain, common decency? Reading the PC masterrace article, some PC gamers refused to use that term to label themselves as it's connected to deaths of millions of people. I don't want to turn this into "it's only a joke" discussion, as that's best left for another time. The issue here is that people are being put down because they don't wanna use a Nazi term. And they're apparently SJWs for that.

Where do people draw the line between being an over the top SJW and just a normal person with common sense and decency? Because a lot of these discussions end up with any sort of sympathy being labeled as bad.

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Please don't use this as a discussion on PC gaming. It was just an example I read about recently.
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It depends on the angle it's coming from. From what I've noticed, right-wingers are quickly inclined to call anyone who has a more liberal stance than they do an SJW. When it comes from more centrist people, however, the term is usually dignified. That being said, I have noticed a trend, at least on the internet, not in my personal life thank god, that more and more people tend to be on the far-left end of the spectrum each passing year.

So I wouldn't say that the term is overused.
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Labels and name calling tend to get tossed around easily in internet arguments. As far as the internet goes, SJW is used as an insult by some. Usually on those who have any sort of left leaning view, regardless of how slight or extreme the lean is. Namely because, online at least, the left has become more associated with...well;

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the whole 3rd wave feminism bullshit, people claiming there are 825 genders, sovereign citizens, highway lawyers that break the law then record themselves trying to outsmart the police and film it etc.


Kind of silly, as if fighting for social justice is a bad thing. Then again, we also have a topic asking if too much social justice leading to political correctness gone mad. :hmm:

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Is the term over used? Absolutely.
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yeah no shit

it doesnt even have meaning anymore
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These are internet discussions, after all. So most of them, when it comes to social issues, turn into a shitshow with not much of a decent discussion. But they're getting to the point where someone who doesn't want to use the word nig*er, for example, is labeled as a SJW.

It's like finding that normal, happy middle is hard.

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Sep 20 2017, 11:03:12 PM
it doesnt even have meaning anymore
kinda like 'racist' :cool:
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"Racist" and "nazi" are definetely overused, perhaps along with "pedophile". I don't know, maybe it's my own bias playing here. I don't often call people SJW's unless they have extremely left ideas.
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Wait what? When is pedophile over used?
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It's used by drama whores on the internet.
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Sep 20 2017, 11:12:15 PM
It's used by drama whores on the internet.

you never fail to prove that you're the biggest moron on this whole forum

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Sep 20 2017, 11:03:56 PM
The Baneposter
Sep 20 2017, 11:03:12 PM
it doesnt even have meaning anymore
kinda like 'racist' :cool:

Not really. I'd actually argue that recent attempts at the normalization of racism and bigotry is what resulted in the proliferation of SJW as a term.
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It is, like most negative nouns online.
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Sep 20 2017, 11:15:50 PM
A Big Crocodile
Sep 20 2017, 11:12:15 PM
It's used by drama whores on the internet.

you never fail to prove that you're the biggest moron on this whole forum

WhiteThinDuke
Sep 20 2017, 11:03:56 PM
The Baneposter
Sep 20 2017, 11:03:12 PM
it doesnt even have meaning anymore
kinda like 'racist' :cool:

Not really. I'd actually argue that recent attempts at the normalization of racism and bigotry is what resulted in the proliferation of SJW as a term.
I'm pretty sure that, in the heat of the YouTube drama shitstorm a few years ago, H3H3 was being accused of being a pedophile. And Keemstar is the ultimate champion of calling people all sorts of names. But I guess I'm an idiot and I don't know shit about anything.
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Let's refrain from straight up name calling and at least try and pretend be somewhat smart when denigrating an opponent on a message board.
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It's a batsignal for the ignorant.

I don't take people who use it in normal conversation seriously; that goes for the majority of parlance that has found a new lease of life among people that live and breathe the internet.

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Let's refrain from straight up name calling and at least try and pretend be somewhat smart when denigrating an opponent on a message board.
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Sep 21 2017, 02:37:04 AM
It's a batsignal for the ignorant.

I don't take people who use it in normal conversation seriously; that goes for the majority of parlance that has found a new lease of life among people that live and breathe the internet.
I was about to say something very similar. It's one of those words that make me think a person is just parroting something that they heard without understanding. It's on a list of words that make me roll my eyes anytime I see it, along with other shining examples of human intelligence like KKKonservative or libtard. Usually people don't go throw terms around like this don't have anything to say that's worth reading.



I mean I might not have anything to say worth reading either, but I try not to telegraph it like some choose to.
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Sep 20 2017, 11:08:31 PM
Wait what? When is pedophile over used?
ABC is Belgian, they do things different over there, I wouldn't go down the rabbit hole of his relationship with that word if I were you.
Sorry I'm pretty drunk I don't mean to accuse you of being a pedophile but come on Belgium is a funny country
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Sep 20 2017, 11:08:31 PM
Wait what? When is pedophile over used?
ABC is Belgian, they do things different over there, I wouldn't go down the rabbit hole of his relationship with that word if I were you.
Sorry I'm pretty drunk I don't mean to accuse you of being a pedophile but come on Belgium is a funny country
Listen buddeh no need to go aboot making national stereotypes guy!! You hear me friend? Relax buddeh
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Go fuck a sheep you unibrowed maniac
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