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Fuck Saudi Arabia
Topic Started: Aug 9 2018, 08:09:48 PM (854 Views)
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Itís time the world is open and honest about this backwards ass global politics manipulating terror funding women hating child murdering police state.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-middle-east-45128367




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I've always thought the middle east was pretty dismal but every time I say something like that I get called a bigot/racist, so I don't bother anymore. Even though those regions are objectively terrible in almost every way.

They make good food and carpets, though.
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Aug 9 2018, 08:41:16 PM
I've always thought the middle east was pretty dismal but every time I say something like that I get called a bigot/racist, so I don't bother anymore. Even though those regions are objectively terrible in almost every way.

They make good food and carpets, though.
because it's important to make the distinction between government and population. i can say i agree with hank's sentiment cuz i know he's a good dude but i personally would be careful about how i word shit like this. everyone with half a brain knows saudi arabia is governed by a bunch of cunts. when you say fuck a certain country or region though it can come off the wrong way, given current political contexts. the biggest victims of the saudi arabian regime are saudi arabians after all.

i dunno i've seen a lot of posts on places like reddit from gay ppl and atheists from the middle east. it's fucking sad. saudi arabia always gets a free pass on shit like this from the international community because oil. sad thing is all of us pretty much enable this shit in some form just by functioning in society.
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Well I think the people over there are a bit weird, but surely not as terrible as the governments. It's probably kinda like North Korea or China where the people are trapped in a certain mindset and way of life. Sucks though.
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I'm glad to see that even after all this time ABC still has no idea what he's talking about when he posts in this section.

SA is an anomaly of extremist politics and the reason they get away with it on such a global stage is because they have a strong western backbone behind their every move.
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"An anomaly of extremist politics". Yup, the neighbouring countries are model regimes. Especially Syria. How I wish they were a member of the EU.
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I'm glad to see that even after all this time ABC still has no idea what he's talking about when he posts in this section.

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"An anomaly of extremist politics". Yup, the neighbouring countries are model regimes. Especially Syria. How I wish they were a member of the EU.
He wasn't saying their extremist politics are an anomaly, but they are an anomaly amongst themselves and others who maintain similar ideologies in their policies.
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I still don't know what he means by that.
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He's saying most governments that are as ass backwards as SA aren't in such a prominent position. But since SA has been consistently back and protected by most Western nations and especially the US they're able to basically get away with all kinds of shit while still having a large amount of global political power. Or at least thats what I think he meant.
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I don't think SA is being "protected" by western countries at all. I think it's the exact opposite, really. If the KSA decides to close the valve on the oil pipes, for whatever reason, they'd effectively destabilise the global economy which still relies heavily on the supply of oil. They already reduced supply for a while during the financial crisis post-2008, and in the seventies before that. I vividly remember having to pay 1.8 euro for a liter of gas at the pump in 2010.

Make no mistake, the KSA is in a position of power, globally. They only need to flex, and the countries that depend on their oil economy will buckle. That's why we are happy to supply them with weapons, and let them basically wipe their ass with the Geneva convention and the international bill of human rights.
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You donít think SA is being protected by western countries? Lol. What kind of grasp of geopolitics do you have? We (the UK) literally sell arms to them.
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You didn't read what I posted, clearly. I said the KSA doesn't need protection.
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Aug 12 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Make no mistake, the KSA is in a position of power, globally. They only need to flex, and the countries that depend on their oil economy will buckle. That's why we are happy to supply them with weapons, and let them basically wipe their ass with the Geneva convention and the international bill of human rights.
If being precariously placed as the most convenient current option is a position of power, then sure. But it's not. SA has no power other than their longstanding trade agreements and ability to sell their oil for dirt cheap comparatively. SA can only flex so hard before people say fuck it and walk away

They aren't sitting on some vast oil resource unavailable to the rest of the world. It's just a question of existing infrastructure. The US is already reactivating oil operations in the Permian basin with new drilling technologies. Canada and Alaska both have fuck loads of oil. Russia is balls deep in oil.

That is literally the opposite of global power. Unless you think the situation in Venezuela right now is indicative of strong political influence.

They're being protected by people who want their oil. That's all there is to it

http://www.blackmountainsand.com/will-the-largest-oilfield-in-the-world-soon-be-the-permian-basin/

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/2018/03/26/texas-us-close-passing-saudi-arabia-russia-worlds-top-crude-oil-producer

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-24/permian-basin-seen-growing-to-largest-oil-patch-in-the-world

Here's some sources on the Permian basin by the way. There's no grounds at all for saying that countries will "buckle" economically without SA oil. And each year you're less able to say that a country even depends on it at all.

I know it's convenient to imagine them as evil brown tyrants shitting on the world but they wouldn't be doing jack shit without western support and protection
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Saudi Arabia pretty much rules the world I really donít think thereís any country on earth as powerful



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A Big Crocodile
Aug 12 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Make no mistake, the KSA is in a position of power, globally. They only need to flex, and the countries that depend on their oil economy will buckle. That's why we are happy to supply them with weapons, and let them basically wipe their ass with the Geneva convention and the international bill of human rights.
If being precariously placed as the most convenient current option is a position of power, then sure. But it's not. SA has no power other than their longstanding trade agreements and ability to sell their oil for dirt cheap comparatively. SA can only flex so hard before people say fuck it and walk away

They aren't sitting on some vast oil resource unavailable to the rest of the world. It's just a question of existing infrastructure. The US is already reactivating oil operations in the Permian basin with new drilling technologies. Canada and Alaska both have fuck loads of oil. Russia is balls deep in oil.

That is literally the opposite of global power. Unless you think the situation in Venezuela right now is indicative of strong political influence.

They're being protected by people who want their oil. That's all there is to it

http://www.blackmountainsand.com/will-the-largest-oilfield-in-the-world-soon-be-the-permian-basin/

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/2018/03/26/texas-us-close-passing-saudi-arabia-russia-worlds-top-crude-oil-producer

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-24/permian-basin-seen-growing-to-largest-oil-patch-in-the-world

Here's some sources on the Permian basin by the way. There's no grounds at all for saying that countries will "buckle" economically without SA oil. And each year you're less able to say that a country even depends on it at all.

I know it's convenient to imagine them as evil brown tyrants shitting on the world but they wouldn't be doing jack shit without western support and protection
If nobody buys the oil of the Middle East, then why is Dubai so fucking opulent? Your equation makes zero sense and your logic is backwards.
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I didn't say nobody buys their oil genius. Read my post. People buy it because it's convenient, not because Saudi Arabia is forcing them too. Their "power" ends the second people decide the cheap oil isn't worth the trouble. They're propped up by Western interests.
Seriously I'm baffled how you got that at all from my post
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I reckon it would be almost as cheap to buy oil from Russia because the logistics are easier, yet we don't. However, we do buy their gas. I wonder why that is, really. But I'm sure geopolitics have nothing to do with it.
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No. It wouldn't even be close cost wise. OPEC has been purpose crafted to supply cheap oil to the west.

But yes theoretically Russia could supply everyone's oil needs. Which is my whole fucking point. If two people can supply the same good and NATO has decided to buy from one and not the other, who is in power? NATO or the people they're buying oil from? Saudi Arabia's only power is their willingness to sell oil for dirt cheap. The rampant human rights violations help make this possible and thus the West looks the other way. If something comes up, supply weapons and a coup and install a new friendly government to keep selling oil as Britain and the US have been doing over there for a hundred years now.

Is that your point? You think this is any indication of Saudi Arabia being politically powerful? What is the point of.your last post because it's essentially agreeing with me.

Russia could supply oil. North America could supply oil. SA could cease to exist and the rest of OPEC could supply oil. SA has no monopoly yet they have influence. Fill in the blanks. It's because they're supported, not because they can force any hands
My grandfather was a mechanical engineer who worked on drilling technologies for nearly fourty years. He spent time in South America, Russia, Africa, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Lebanon, and Kuwait. This was his understanding of the situation with Saudi Arabia.

My father has worked in the oil and gas industry in the US since he was 20 and he hasn't retired yet. Currently bidding on a job for oil infrastructure in West Texas. This is also his understanding of the situation.

My father in law worked for Exxon Mobil for 28 years, again his understanding of the situation.

Oh and Aragorn actually fucking lives in Kuwait.

Yet you're arguing against all of this, and also simple history that it easily studied if you have even the slightest inclination to not be ignorant, with only a vague notion of what you think why exactly? Just to be contrary? You aren't even reading the fucking posts
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my grandfather could beat urs up
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